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  • sounddesigner
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-05-31

    So I am using an X32 Compact with an SD8 stage box and trying to send outputs 1-8 to separate MixBuses (separate from what MixBuses 1-8, which are assigned to the outputs of the X32.)

    I have them connected via AES50a. Getting the inputs setup was very straight forward, and already patched by default. I have my X32 XLR inputs as channels 1-16, and the SD8 is 17-24. I was even able to assign some of the faders in the first bank to A01, A02, etc. Very simple and intuitive.

    However, I'm having difficulty assigning the SD8's outputs to separate MixBuses. Assigning different outputs for MixBuses doesn't appear to be as straight forward. For instance, I thought it would be as easy as just selecting MixBus 9 and assigning it to SD8 output 1.

    By default, it appears the SD8 is assigned to mirror the XLR outputs of the X32 Compact (1-8). I need to keep those separate. When I send to MixBus 1, it sends to both the XLR output of the X32 and Output 1 of the SD8.

    Via the AES50a tab, I tried assigning AES50a (Outputs 1-8) to Out 9-16. I've tried flipping the switch on the SD8 between the different modes; 1-8 and 9-16, but nothing appears to work. 

    The "Out 1-16" tab is straight forward, you choose an Analog Output and you choose a category/output signal (here I would choose MixBus). However, it only gives Analog Output as an option (no AES50 in the list)... 9-16 on that page has an asterisk next to each channel and they are all assigned to the MixBuses accordingly. Output 9 to Mixbus 9, etc.

    Is there a way for me to assign, for instance, Output 1 of the SD8 to MixBus 9 and so on? And have Outputs 1-8 of the board remain separate on MixBuses 1-8? Am I overlooking something obvious?

    Thanks in advance

     

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    • sounddesigner
      DaveMorrison

      @sounddesigner 


      Output 1-16 is not an analog output. It's an intermediate stage. After your outputs are staged on Output 1-16, then you can assign those to the XLR out (Mixer) and/or AES50 (stagebox).

      • May 31, 2019
    • sounddesigner
      sounddesigner

      Hi Dave,


       


      Thanks for the quick response. So is it a misnomer in the X32? Or does that subheading change when something else is done? It says "Analog Outputs" in the left column/list for me and AES50 is not a choice there. How do I get that to change?

      • May 31, 2019
    • sounddesigner
      Paul_Vannatto


      @sounddesigner wrote:


      Hi Dave,


      Thanks for the quick response. So is it a misnomer in the X32? Or does that subheading change when something else is done? It says "Analog Outputs" in the left column/list for me and AES50 is not a choice there. How do I get that to change?





      What Dave meant to say was that Outputs 1-16 screen was not directly connected to physical analog outputs (it use to be). Rather it is one of the staging areas where individual signals can be assigned to virtual outputs in order to make up banks of 8. These banks can then be assigned to the screens that are directly attached to physical outputs, such as the Card Out, AES50 (A and B) and XLR Out (banks of 4). The latter (XLR Out) is directly connected to the XLR-M jacks on the back of the console.


       

      • May 31, 2019
    • sounddesigner
      sounddesigner

      Hi Paul,


       


      Thank you. And I aologize for my confusion.


      So I see on the 'Out 1-16' tab, Output 9-16 have asterisks next to them, saying, "the outputs are currently not connected to any physical output connector on this device. Please check the 'xlr out' routing tab."


      However, when I go to the 'xlr out' tab, I only see two lists, Outputs 1-4 and Outputs 5-8. So it's just showing the xlr connections on the back of the board. 9-16 is not on that tab.


      Am I misunderstanding all of this? And is it that I can't assign 9-16 as separate outputs? And I have to repurpose a patch of 4 of my outputs from the board? As in, I can only have 8 total (combination of board and SD8)?

      • June 1, 2019
    • sounddesigner
      DaveMorrison

      @sounddesigner The asterisks are reminders that the board doesn't have physical outputs. Go ahead an assign what ever you want on 9-16. Then Go to the AES50 A/B tab. Go to the OUT 9-16 heading (source) and set it for AES A 1-8 (output). I presume this is where you want it. This will put that block of signal on the AES50-A port on channel 1-8. 

      • June 1, 2019
  • KevinLacy
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-05-30

    Hello folks

    I am experiencing an odd behavior with a unique setup with my X32 Core and M32R. I am doing a redundant 32 Channel Record with 2 laptops (1 laptop connected to the Card Out of the X32 Core and 1 connected to the Card Out of the M32R) as follows…

    DL32 ---> M32R AES50-A (This gets my sources from the stage into the M32R for mixing the live show)

    M32R AES50-B ---> X32 Core AES50-A (This gets the audio from the M32R(picking off the DL32 Head Amps) into the X32 Core)

    On the AES50-B Tab of the Routing Page on the M32R, I have set Outputs 1-32 to AES50-A 1-32 effectively passing through the 32 Head Amps of the DL32 through the M32R onto the X32 Core. It all works as expected and I can record multitrack on both laptops just fine but the problem is, when I recall a scene on the X32 Core, the Routing of the AES50-B Outputs on the M32R change to Out 9-16 on every single block and I have to go back to the M32R and manually change them back to AES50-A 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32 in order to get everything working again.

    I don’t understand why recalling a scene on the X32 Core (which is only connected via AES50) would change the output routing of the M32R.

    I’ve tried Parameter safeing and a few other things but nothing seems to stop this behavior.

    Does anyone here have any idea why this is happening and what I can do to prevent it?

    Thanks in advance for your helpful replies

    Kevin

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      GaryHiggins

      Hi Kevin, @KevinLacey wondering how you have the sync set up? Is the Core sync internal and the M32r sync aes50B? Or is the M32R sync internal? You might try switching them. It makes some sense to me that the Core may change the M32 if the aes50a out of the Core is not set to what you need on the M32-since it's a 2 way street.  A thought would be to try sending aes50a 1-48 from the Core aes50a out 1-48 essentially sending back out what it received, or maybe set aes50a out 1-48 to all local since the Core doesn't have any local. Or maybe send aes50b 1-48 from the Core since it recieves nothing from there. Just some suggestions.  Do you have the M32 set for safed routing i/o?

      • June 8, 2019
  • garypegb
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-05-29

    Is the Heritage-D a real thing?

     

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