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  • striple66
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-02-16

    Hi, I am new to X32 and X32 Edit - that's why I tried to read and watch a lot about all topics around this fantastic console. However, I am a little confused about the different "looks" of the X32 Edit software displayed in some videos on YouTube (image1). The current download for the X 32 Edit software from Behringers homepage shows version 4.1 as the most current version (image2). But this version looks so much "worse" the the other version (image1) I found on YouTube. 

    Can you help me which version I should use? Is it even possible to get the "YouTube" version anymore?image1(YouTube version of X-Edit32)image1(YouTube version of X-Edit32)image2(Behringer download)image2(Behringer download)

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    • striple66
      RexBeckett

      @striple66 


      X32 Edit V4.1 is the most recent version and should be used with console firmware V4.xx. There were some very old versions of X32 Edit that were layed out in a similar way to the console but they would not be suitable for use with recent console firmware versions. Some early videos show the obsolete software. 


       


      While the current software may not resemble the layout of the console, it still supports all the functions. It does not take very long to understand and appreciate the new layout.

      • February 16, 2020
  • earcondition
    Regular Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-15

    Hi All, i just set up everything for a show on monday, with a lot of inputs (40) going to 6 IEM mixes.

    So i hought it be good to have shortcuts for the flip to faders function and programmed the lower 8 user buttons to do the job. Then i realised that, to listen to the respective mix, i still had to switch to the bus master layer to solo this bus.

    Would it be a good feature to have the solo function coupled to sends on faders as an additional option?

    So far i did not find a function to solo a certain bus or channel in the list of programmable functions......

    Still very very happy with the console ........

     

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    • earcondition
      GaryHiggins

      @earcondition Hey, you could set "monitor" to a user button and on the monitor page you can select 2 buses as the sources from monitor A and B, That will get you access to 2 buses pretty quickly anyway. I'm pretty sure the source selection stays as "the" source until changed to another. You can select any main, bus, matrix or aux ch from the list. Of course, you could just hit the monitor 'view' button and do the same thing, but what fun is that!


       


      EDIT: Well, seems I spoke too soon, I can't yet get any sound from monitor B, not exactly sure why...will keep digging... so I guess that leaves monitor A! Still can swap sources to monitor busses there.

      • February 15, 2020
    • earcondition
      earcondition

      Thanks Gary .....


      I meant something different: There´s a certain british console manufacturer very beloved by monitor guys round the globe just simply for one reason:


      In the center section of their consoles you hit SOLO on any bus, you have instantly SOF for this bus by default. Since many of these consoles have 3 banks of 12 faders, it´s not so important to sacrifice a whole channel strip for this function, plus there are programmable macros to achieve this even without the need to have the aux masters present on the surface, i thought it would be a good idea to have this on the wing, because it allows only 20 faders into SOF mode.

      • February 15, 2020
    • earcondition
      earcondition

      HI Gary, me again just to clarify:


      I can do the SOF thingy by using the four faders on the right side of the WING, but this workflow is significantly slower than just pressing a dedicated button. Here are the two paths:


      1: > User switch:


      # Press one button. Done.


      you could have 16 user buttons programmed like that for instant access without any further "buttons pressing" or fader banking. That´s covering all available busses.


       


      2: > The four faders to the right of the WING:


      # Change layer to busses 


      # If more than four busses go to corresponding layer via arrow switch


      # Select bus


      # Select SOF


      ........


       


      That´s four steps vs one step. I hope you see what i mean.


      Cheers, Klaus


       

      • February 16, 2020
    • earcondition
      GaryHiggins

      @earcondition  I have all mine set up like your version 1, each button as a send to a designated bus, 1-16. I thought your issue was not that (selecting each bus) but hearing each via your headphones. Unless it's my own monitor, I usually don't need to hear it, I need someone to direct me to increase or decrease ch levels for them. Only to say for me, quickly getting to the correct bus sends area is the bigger deal. If I need to hear it, the extra step or 2 is ok


       


      The A Monitor and B monitor business is a bit odd (tho you can select each bus and listen, that works fine). I am not yet sure what the intent of 2 sections is exactly. I was able to get B to function fine but to monitor via headphones, I had to rout it to aux 7/8 (instead of Mon A). I saw that "how to" Wing video on monitors and solo functions where it was mentioned that the earphones are somehow linked to aux 7/8 and this should be left that way to avoid confusion. This in itself was confusing to me. If one goes by icon, A is phones and B is speakers, maybe it's that. Not so sure I need that selection distiction on the monitor pages but maybe I just don't know it yet!

      • February 16, 2020
    • earcondition
      earcondition

      Thanks very much Paul and Craig !


      @GaryHiggins :


      The monitor A/B function is very much essential if you have a mixed monitor setup on stage, i. e. some musicians use IEM while others use wedges, so you could solo each bus to the corresponding kind of lstening device (IEM/Wedge).


       


      Concerning the solo thingy: My experience tells me , that in many concert situations, it good to hear what the musicians hear, cause it may well be the singer (for instance) wants himself louder again and again, but in reality something else in his mix is just simply disturbing him or her. It´s my job to listen in and find the best solution.


      The other thing is: The programmable buttons do NOT select a channel the way you do on the surface, it just selects it PAGE, which is different somehow, because first i thought SOLO follows SEL would do the job in my case. 


      Turns out that it doesn´t. That the reason i posted my question ......


       


      Once again thanks to you guys

      • February 16, 2020
  • d2drummer
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-10

    After 30+ years of playing, Im become fed up with the house engineers in some venues and I've decided to take matters into my own hands.  I purchased a Behringer Xenyx X1222 so that I can start mixing my own drums and electronics so that I have complete control of my sound and want to setup the mixer so that I can send what they need to the house needs.

    The problem is that there is very little information available on Behringer, Youtube and other places for setting all these tools up specifically for drummers who are introducing electronics (SPd-SX/IPad).  So Phase 1 is entirely about just getting things setup properly for my own benefit and of course so that I can give the house what they need.

    SETUP:

    1.  Behringer Xxenyx X1222 Mixer
    2.  Drum Kit with 8 Inputs (Audix Mics & Condensor Mics for OH's. (HH Mic, Snare, Kick, Tom1, Tom2, Tom 3, Overhead 1 & 2 Condensor Mics for Cymbals.
    3.  Introducing the Roland SPD-SX. Programmed multiple sounds on multiple kits (Tambourine, Timebales, Toms Etc...
    4.  Ipad with the BandHelper.com App (For Set Lists, Metronome and Cue Tracks).

    5.  And Finally how to use the proper outputs to give a line to the band (Internally) and House with the final mix. And for gods sake, what are the inserts for?

    If anyone can provide any assistance and a best practice for the setup I'm trying to achive, I would be greatly appreciated.  Attached is a photo of my kit, spd and mixer.

    Mixer:

    Channel 1:  I receive a band mix (xlr)
    Channel 2-7 Drums
    Channel 7(left):    Left Overhead
    Channel 7(right)  Right OverHead

    I have 4 aux returns (2Left, 2Right),  Mon Send,  FX Send
    and TWO XLR Main Outputs

    I need to send the signal back to the band's mixer, what should I use?

    Is a DI Necessary? I have one, just don't know where it fits in the setup.

    Ulitimately,  A video,  a manual, expert with video/diagrams, anything that is geared solely to drummers is seriously needed.

    PHASE II 

    1. Once the drum mix is setup properly and sent out to the band/house successfly, I'll move on to the task of sending this mix to a computer for recording and I can only guess If each signal will produce a separate recording track in the recording software.

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    • d2drummer
      GaryHiggins

      @d2drummer I'm not so sure you got the right mixer for your needs, you don't have enough mic pre's to plug in all your drum mics and if what you are looking to do is give yourself full control of your drum monitor sound and provide outs to a house system, you need direct outs for each mic and a way to provide an uncolored send to FOH. Or a splitter snake, one side for your mixer and one for FOH. I can assure you they won'y want what you have set up for your needs for their feed. Best case there is they won't want every drum, maybe just K,S and overheads. You need IMO, at least a 16 ch mixer with enough xlr inputs to plug in each drum mic at least. Most of those will have some aux in and a few 1/4 line in ch's for your Roland and other inputs. Better to have too many than compromise. So a 16 ch mixer and a splitter snake that equals your drum mics and outboard drum machines or else a 16 or more ch mixer that has direct outs with user controlled tap points. My 2 cents. OR buy your band a nice X32 Rack, use it for everything and give yourself a great fully controlled (by you) stereo in ear (or monitor) mix.

      • February 10, 2020
    • d2drummer
      MusicallySavage

      Buying an X32 for the band would be ultimate. But you need to know what you're doing. You queried videos, experts etc... People pay loads of money to do Sound Engineer courses. That's kind of what you want. There is a whole lot more going on than simply plugging mics in. Pay an engineer for some lessons? As noted by Gary, Condensor mics only work on XLR inputs, where phantom power is supplied. (Unless you use an external phantom power supply) You may have to rethink your mic mapping. Unlikely you need the DI unless the Roland signal is noisy.


       


      is your complaint with in-house techs that they never give you what you want in your monitor? You could continue to use your current setup to give you what you want in your own monitor. And allow the Sound Tech to place his own mics around your kit for FOH. 
      Gary is correct in that your current mixer won't give any engineer what he wants.


      sorry...


       

      • February 10, 2020
    • d2drummer
      Hobbes A setup where you only have 2 outputs from the drum set to the FOH mixer isn't going to be ideal for the FOH sound engineer. He has to make a mix that sounds good to the audience, and that will be a different mix than the one you need for monitoring. It sounds like you're having trouble getting a good monitor mix. So what you need is some way to split the signal from each microphone so FOH and monitoring are completely separate. You can do this with a mixer, but the Xenyx 1222 is not enough: You'll need 8 mono mic-level inputs, plus 2 stereo pairs. For the outputs to FOH there are several options: 1. use the inserts on each channel. For this to work, the insert must be as close as possible to the mic input in the signal path (so before EQ, fader etc). Inserts are usually unbalanced though, and this will make the FOH engineer grumpy. 2. use microphone splitters. Some careful setup needed for phantom power. 3. Other outputs on the mixer. You'd need a 12-in, 12-out mixer, and there aren't many of those. An X32 Rack plus SD8 gets you 16 analog XLR outputs. A Xenyx 2442 also seems to be an option, depending on where the inserts are wired. Traditionally, inserts are used to insert an external device into a channel. They're used to add effects etc. to the channel. The insert plug contains both an output and an input, but with the correct wiring you can also use them as outputs... A DI goes between your iPad and the mixer. It converts the unbalanced signal to balanced, and it changes the impedance of the circuit to better match the mixer inputs.
      • February 12, 2020
  • LarsDamkjaer
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-02-10

    Hi

    I am looking forward to see if I have postedthis correctly and in the right place. I work as a tester of IT systems and I can tell you that this forum design would never have passed my tests After it was redsigned I use a lot of time finding my way, since I use it only occasionally. Anyway - I always seem to get help from a lot of fridnlly and clever people here So - I will try again.

    We have a X32 compact connected with 3 digital snakes: 1 SD 16 (connected to A on the mixer) and 2 SD8's. SD8-1 connected to mixer B, and from SD8-1 connected to SD8-2. Inputs are working fine and spread overall 3 snakes. I have a huge problem with outputs though. Probably me being stupid, but now I WANT to understand. I find it confusing in the Routing menu with OUTPUT, XLR AES50-a Outputs amd AES50-B outputs. Today (as you can see in the attached scene) we are connecting the main L/R to output 15 and 16 and physical to 7 and 8 on the SD16 (AES50-A) This works fine but now when I want to connect to other physical outputs it does now work. I want main L out to SD8-1 output 8 and main R out to SD8-2 8. When I do that and try to set it up it seems I am getting it in mono or otherwise wrong. I am not able to pan L-R on the main master. I hope you understand. When I understand it myself I will have to do a more complex setup, but thought I would start with this one. Anyone can help???

    Best regards - Lars 

     

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    • LarsDamkjaer
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Lars @LarsDamkjaer ,


      Actually it is a real easy fix.


      * First, on the Outputs 1-16 screen (where you setup the individual output), change Output 8 from OFF to Main L. 


      * Next, On the AES50-b screen, assign the second bank of 8 from Out 1-8 to Out 9-16. That will the Main L to go out the 8th output of the first SD8 and the Main R to go out the 8th output of the second SD8


      * Finally on the second SD8, switch the small switch beside the AES50 ports to Out 9-16 to get that second bank of 8. (also make sure the first SD8 switch is set to Out 1-8).


      Attached is the corrected scene 

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      • February 10, 2020
    • LarsDamkjaer
      LarsDamkjaer

      Hi Paul


      I tried it and it worked perfectly thx. I really appreciate your help!


      There are still something I do not understand though - Can i take some pictures and contact you again for help on this issue regarding output assignments?


      Best regards - Lars


       

      • February 11, 2020
  • LucasLettmann
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-02-10

    First of all i want to say that the Wing has some very nice features and i overall like the console (i have the full range of Products X32, X32 Rack, M32R, P16, S16, S32, SD8, DL16, DL32, DL152,.. and am mixing quite often on all different deks like Yamaha CL/QL, A&H DLive/ILive/SQ, Soundcraft Vi,...) - but it is missing some features of the X/M-Series. I hade a whole week of live-music with this desk now and am going to have 10days of musical productions now. I think i found some potential bugs (or maybe i did not find the right button/setting/etc.). Maybe you could confirm some of the points or tell me how to do

     

    • - HeadAmp Remote (e.g. to let another Wing/X/M controll the Preamps of a stagebox connected through a Wing) is not working (there is no setting in the Wing) -> this is very important to have this working

    • - i would like to see/read what is connected to my AES-Ports. The little icons of Stageboxes or Desks as in the X/M would be enough. Now i have to guess, what is connected and how many channels i have. This is not a very critical thing, but should not be hard to implement.

    • - if you change the name of a DCA or MuteGrp all assigned channels are lost. The old Name is still assigned as a "TAG" but does not get renamed. Maybe a Dialog should pop up and ask wheather you would reassign all previously assigned channels (populate the new name to all tags).

    • - If you change the source settings (name, icon, colour) of an already assigned source (to an input) the chnages are not populated to the channel. You should show a dialog asking you if you wohld like to accept the change or dismiss. Another option would be a global "refresh" button, to "sync" all channels to the sources.

    • - With the X/M-Series it was possible to select different EQ-Filter types (PEQ,VEQ) and some other filter types for High- and Low-Band (LR12/24, BW12/24,...). I could not find any option to set this on the wing.

    • - At console init the High- and Low-Bands of the 6 filter EQs are assigned to LowShelv and HighShelv. It takes very long to reassign them to "normal" PEQ filter. It would be nice to have a global setting in the Setup-Menu to set all Filter to PEQ oder L/H-Shelv.
    • - Somewhere i read about Single Band DynamicEQ - i was not able to find it. I thought it was available as a tool filter - but i only found TiltEQ, Maxer, AP90,AP180.

    • - How does the Maxer tool-filter work? AP90 and AP180 seems to bee the AllPass filter - a phase plot in the EQ window would be good to set the AP-filter.

    • - It is very slow from a channel HOME menu to first push "INPUT" and then the source icon to go to source view. it would be much more convenient to be able to push the icon directly

    • - Talback assignment only allows channel40 or Aux8. this is indeed very unflexible. It would be best to select any input-source freely. I do not need Channel-Processing on Talkback so i would like to pick for example LocalInput8 without wasting "Mixing-Channels".

    • - I have to investigate a bit further in this, but i had a strange beahviour with the Monitor-Settings. I would like to have exclusive Monitor, this is default config, i guess, since exclusive solo was "ON". As i remeber right, this was working correctly (or i did not notice), but at some time i noticed, that the solo "sums up". I was not able to change this behaviour regardless of all settings i tried

    • - i experienced some problems with the touchscreen randomly pressing around, but this issue has gone now. also there is a bleeding from background light in one edge of the screen. it dissapears if you press the plastic cover around the screen

    • - the most important thing is i had some trouble with the gain settings: Wing AES50-A to S32 (on lates FW) - i had to crank the gains to almost maximum (45.5) and sometimes wanted more gain. With the M32 i naver had to gain that high - i think there have to be an issue with the gain control. To check this (because the S32 has no screen and S16 was on another job) i connected an X32Rack (latest FW and HA Remote activated on the AES50) to Wing via AES50. I set the gain via Wing and had a look to the PREAMPS Setup Page on the X32Rack. The Gains were somehwere in the Range of the Settings per Wing, but they did not match (they were smaler). I also noticed, that i can set gain to 60db via X32Rack, but only to 45.5dB via Wing. I am aware, that there is a difference between channel gain setting and HA Gain (because of discrete steps in digital Potis the real HA gain is et in steps of 2.5dB an the rest is digital Trim), but on the PreampsMenu on the X/M there is no trim, it shows the "real" HA gain, so i assume this should match up with the wing? Last thing: if i change a gain setting on the X32 Preamp Page, this is not relfected to the wing. it shows the old gain, previously set on the wing.

    • - Why is there no compressor in the FX Rack? Like the LeisureComp, etc. Could you please provide all ChannelPlugins (selectable instead of Gat/Comp/EQ) as InsertFX in the FXRack? that would be very helpful sometimes.

    • - The Channel Overview (press View Button on Fader bank) is very good The FX selection and using so many FXs on all channels, change WingEq to EQ-Model, etc is awesome for this consle. All Buttons feel very good and reliable. The whole console feels very durable and good. The resolution of the little screen on the right side just fine for its job. while mixing you do not need it very ofter because you can do everything on the big touchscreen, when working together side by side on the console, the angle is okay and a second engineer could use this section (and the 4 fader on the right side) to indepandandly gain and eq the channels. But the most annoying thing is the layout of the buttons: who wants to set the Q-factor for all filter bands, then set Frequencie for all bands and then set gain for all? the layout of the X/M-Series was way more convinient! you had 1 band at a time and could control gain, freq and q simultaneously. Since the button Layout is a hardware thing, changing this is impossible, but as this console is said to be a "personal mixing console" you could probably have a software option to chang this behaviour and use 3 encoders for q, freq, gain and a button press or 4th encoder to select filter band.

    • - expand touchable area: sometimes you have to push exactly a very small symbol, instead of just push somewhere on the text-bar, etc.

    • - 2/4Ch USB-Player: a FF button would be great

     

    Another idea: I know this is not an easy one, but could be a great one It is possible to use 6band EQ, indepandent Sends EQ, Comp and Gate (and simulations) on all channels simultaneously. on top you have 16FX Slots. Most of the time you do not use all of this on all channels, but you maybe need more than 40 channels and would like to have a compressor on a source on AuxIn. it would be more personal to give all channels all possibilities and have an "DSP-Engine Load Indicator". So you could not use everything on any channel simultaneously, but use what you want on the channel you want with a maximum limitation trough the processing Power. This way it is up to the engineer what trade of he is doing: if he does not need 8 PremiumFX he can use more Compressors, Gate, etc. on th channels. If he needs more than 8 PremiumFX, he losses Channel processing or StandardFX and so on. The best feature would be use this aproach with the channel count: now you have 48full Stereo Channels (so 96 Inputs in total). But what if you need 55Mono Channel and only a litte processing? Would be great to "trade" some stereo channels for more mono channels.

     

    Sry for the long text. I hope you understand everything and could give me some feedback (aprove a bug or give a possible solution). I maybe missunderstood something or just was to blind to see some buttons/features i mentioned above. I am very looking forward to the StageConnect and Hub4!

    Have a nice start into the week


    ***this buggy forum does show me q well formatted text with enumaration etc. but if i click "post" it is only one long text without any paragraphs. So i quickly changed the layout a bit that it is readable*****

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  • Mr_Bongo
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-02-09

    Heyho,

    am I right that the Wing doesn´t have cut filters in the Matrix channels (yet)? Or did I just miss them?
    That would be super useful

    Firmware 1.01

    cheers

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    • Mr_Bongo
      GaryHiggins

      Hello @Mr_Bongo I think you missed it, the Matrix ch eq is 8 bands wide: Low cut, High cut and 6 peq bands in between. Well...guess I missed it too, I guess those are really shelves! 

      • February 9, 2020
    • Mr_Bongo
      GaryHiggins

      @Mr_Bongo Well, the new firmware is out (1.02) and the low and high filters now have a much larger range, hi cut all the way down to 50! Should solve the issues there.

      • February 9, 2020
    • Mr_Bongo
      Mr_Bongo

      thanks for the input

      yeah, I already installed 1.02, nice upgrade.
      Still, the Matrix channels lack lowcut and highcut. They would be very useful to control a PA system from the console, like I need to do on several touring projects that don´t have a dedicated system controller

      • February 9, 2020
    • Mr_Bongo
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hey @Mr_Bongo and @GaryHiggins , you both missed it. Select a matrix, then the gear icon (at the top). There you can choose whether the high and low bands are shelf, PEQ or cut.


       

      • February 9, 2020
  • WITELITE
    Regular Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-04

    So getting my way around this unit and unlike the x32 which had Aux and FX Returns on one page, it looks like the only way to set up FX is to assign them to a Bus (Which is like the X32). If thats the case, how do you send FX to monitors which are also in the same bus page?

    (Thanks Paul in advance

     

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    • WITELITE
      Paul_Vannatto


      @WITELITE wrote:


      it looks like the only way to set up FX is to assign them to a Bus (Which is like the X32).





      That is correct - sort of. On the Wing, you will insert the FX to either insert 1 or 2 and control the return to the Main (1-4) using the bus fader, which is a bit different than on the X32.


       




      If thats the case, how do you send FX to monitors which are also in the same bus page?



      It took me awhile to figure that out too. The way to do that is to assign that bus (with the FX inserted) to a User Signal (In), then assign that User Signal to a channel strip. Make sure you turn off the sends to the Main (1-4) for that channel strip and only send to the monitor buses.


       

      • February 4, 2020
    • WITELITE
      WITELITE

      "It took me awhile to figure that out too. The way to do that is to assign that bus (with the FX inserted) to a User Signal (In), then assign that User Signal to a channel strip. Make sure you turn off the sends to the Main (1-4) for that channel strip and only send to the monitor buses."


       


      Actually I don't think you need the User Signal for FX to Monitors. I assigned the Bus with the FX to an Aux and then just raised the level of that Aux in the Monitor. Does that make sense?

      • February 6, 2020
    • WITELITE
      Paul_Vannatto


      @WITELITE wrote:


      Actually I don't think you need the User Signal for FX to Monitors. I assigned the Bus with the FX to an Aux and then just raised the level of that Aux in the Monitor. Does that make sense?





      Yes that will work if you are only sending to one (or more) of the Main (1-4). If you want to send to a bus (ie to monitor mix) you can't send a bus to a bus, thus the need to use the User Signal routing.


       

      • February 6, 2020
    • WITELITE
      WITELITE

      Try it. It works for me. I turned off mains like you said.

      • February 6, 2020
    • WITELITE
      GaryHiggins

      @WITELITE @Paul_Vannatto Going on the assumption that this might work, you could then use all 8 aux ch's set up as fx 1L, fx 1R, fx 2L/2R etc etc sourced from buses 13-16 each with an fx inserted and use the aux ch's just ike we used to for the fx sends to buses on the x32 . I can see if I hit SOF for say bus 1, the auxes (now re sourced) behave like any other ch living in the left hand banks so I'm hopeful it does work. I'm in process of trying just that but setting the aux FX sends as the alt sources for aux 1-8 and leaving aux inputs as the main ch source-or maybe the other way around would be better, not sure. The problem for me is hearing a bus mix output at the moment to test it at all, I'm not well set up to do so. Maybe I'll set up an S16 as at least I can monitor the outputs with the headphone jack on it.

      • February 7, 2020
  • josoal
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-03

    Hi.
    It would be very useful to have an input signal indicator in the routing section and in the source selection.
    Greetings.

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    • josoal
      Paul_Vannatto


      @josoal wrote:


      Hi.
      It would be very useful to have an input signal indicator in the routing section and in the source selection.





      Each input in the Routing section has a VU meter. The correct workflow in the Wing is to first establish the inputs there (labeling them, etc.). Then when you go to assign these inputs to the desired channel strip, it is easy to choose the correct inputs.


       

      • February 2, 2020
  • divil
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-01-21

    I am looking at buying an X Touch to compliment my XR18 and was wondering if anybody is successfully using the XR18 plugged into the X Touch's built in USB hub and then into a PC USB port without any issues...or am I best going directly into seperate USB ports on my PC....my concern is that chaining may affect the audio quality...as in dropouts etc??

    Thanks for any info

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    • divil
      RexBeckett

      @divil 


      I don't recommend passing the XR18 USB line through any hub. If you want to use the XTouch to control a DAW on the PC, you should use a separate USB port. You should use a network connection to control the XR18 from the XTouch. 

      • January 20, 2020
    • divil
      divil


      @RexBeckett wrote:


      @divil 


      I don't recommend passing the XR18 USB line through any hub. If you want to use the XTouch to control a DAW on the PC, you should use a separate USB port. You should use a network connection to control the XR18 from the XTouch. 





      This is what I thought Rex...just thought I would put it out there to see if anybody had tried it!

      • January 21, 2020
    • divil
      DaveMorrison

      @divil 


      I have and it worked perfectly in my case. I was running apple's Mainstage on a MacBook Pro (with normal USB A connectors) into my X-Touch. And my X32 rack was connected to the X-Touch's USB hub. 

      • January 21, 2020
    • divil
      divil


      @DaveMorrison wrote:


      @divil 


      I have and it worked perfectly in my case. I was running apple's Mainstage on a MacBook Pro (with normal USB A connectors) into my X-Touch. And my X32 rack was connected to the X-Touch's USB hub. 





      Cheers Dave.....thanks for your input....I shall try both ways and see what happens ?

      • January 21, 2020
    • divil
      KenMitchell

      @divil 


       


      The issue with plugging through a hub is latency and bus contention/priority.  In some cases, the USB port on your laptop is already connected to a hub internally so this can make things even worse.   Like many things in the audio world, it's a recommendation not to do it, but not a hard-fast rule.   For me, I prefer as many direct connections as possible just to reduce the risk of point failures and simplify troubleshooting. 


       


      Ken

      • January 21, 2020
  • leonardriaan
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-01-15

    Good Day

    I need assistance please, I have a big show very shortly and are really not an pro when it comes to ableton or live recording. I need assistance on my settings from the XR18 Mixer to ableton.I am currently just playing out of media player to see if I am able to record that then the rest should not be to difficult.My problem is accroding to al the settings on the photos attached i only get signal to ableton on the Asio - and X Air Asio Driver, so I assume that is right, but by pressing the record button nothing is happening I have changed the input channel setting on ableton to the desired channel on the mixer.

    Please have a look at the attached photos for all my settings

    I would like a quick easy way just to get this up and running. Much AppreciatedPic1.jpgPic 2.jpgPic  3.jpgPic  4.jpgPic  5.jpgPic  6.jpgPic  7.jpgPic  8.jpgPic  9.jpgPic  10.jpgPic  11.jpgPic  12.jpgPic  13.jpgPic  14.jpgPic  15.jpgPic  16.jpgPic  17.jpg

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    • leonardriaan
      RexBeckett

      @leonardriaan 


      Hi Riaan, you are correct: To record/play more than two channels you must select the XR18 ASIO device for input and output in your DAW. As far as I can see, your XR18 settings look OK. I can't be sure from the screenshot but on In/Out -> USB Sends the signal tap should usually be Analog (red circle).


       


      I don't know Ableton but, if it is like most DAWs, you record-arm each track you want to record and then start recording. We will no doubt hear from Ableton users if that isn't correct.


       


      To play recorded tracks back through the XR18, each required channel needs to be set to USB source. This can be done on each channel's Input tab or in blocks by using the macro buttons on the In/Out -> USB Returns tab. It is convenient to save separate Snapshots with record and playback routing. 

      • January 14, 2020
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