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  • SethUldall
    Super Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-08

    I've purchased an X-Touch and am in the process of researching the possibility of adding an X-Touch Extender for live mixing through an XR18 or M32C and have come accross some reports that it's not actually an extender, per say.  Is the X-Touch Extender REALLY not compatible with an X-Touch and X32core/M32c?  Has this been solved/resolved?

    Seems wild that the "extender" wouldn't be recognized by the X-Touch when connected via USB and automattically configured it as an extension of itself, tabing through the channels 16 at a time instead of 8.

    What's the real deal? Is this an old issue or something still true and current?

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    • SethUldall
      DaveMorrison

      Hi @SethUldall 


      It's still not compatible. I wish I had bought an extra  X-Touch instead of an extender for live use. There are kludges to use an extra intermediate device to "translate" the Extender's output.

      • July 8, 2019
    • SethUldall
      SethUldall

      Thank you Dave.  I really appreciate it.  I hope someone outbids my current bid for one on ebay.  I'm blown away that they market it the way they do.  Waaaay misleading.  "Extender", my rear end!  LOL


      I'd much rather see it/them marketed as something without the letter X in it and perhaps numbered.. ie.Touch 1, Touch 2, Touch 3, etc. 


      Very frustrating


       


      Thanks again Dave.  Much appreciated. :Thumbsup:

      • July 8, 2019
    • SethUldall
      DaveMorrison

      @SethUldall 


      To be fair, the X-Touch and Extenders are Mackie Control clones—Designed to control DAWs (and they do it well). The X-Touch got the XCTL upgrade (for X32 control), the Extender didn't. But the advertisements are misleadleading. Colored scribble strips imply X32 control is possible; MCU and HUI protocols can't have color.

      • July 8, 2019
    • SethUldall
      SethUldall

      Dodged a bullet.  Someone outbid me on the Extender.


      Whew!

      • July 12, 2019
    • SethUldall
      BaileyRichard

      Just been caught by the same misleading info.


      Just wasted a day trying to get them both to work with X32/M32/MR18s.


      Doesnt even work as the manual indicates when connected directly to the console on its own in Ethernet mode, although it gives the indication it is trying.


      The Connection guide in both the X Touch and X Touch Extender handbooks indicate that they can be connected together with no mention that this cannot then be subsequently connected to a Console.


      This is beyond misleading.........It is down right inaccurate!

      • July 21, 2019
  • RexBeckett
    Superhero - Level 3
    2019-06-09

    People sometimes ask how they can control their XAir or X32 mixers using a footswitch. Usually they just want to switch FX on/off or perhaps load a Snapshot/Snippet. These simple actions can be achieved over Midi and enquirers are directed to threads that explain how to build suitable footswitches. That's fine for DIY electronics enthusiasts but sometimes people want an off-the-shelf solution. I decided to test some of the ready-made products.

    I only investigated products that were capable of sending Midi Control Change messages to toggle mutes or mute groups. This excluded many small Midi footswitches that can only send Program Change messages. I also excluded devices that did not have built-in DIN Midi outputs. Products designed for USB Midi could be used with USB/DIN Midi converters but that adds another box so it isn't an ideal solution.

     

    One option is the Midi Solutions Footswitch Controller. This is available in single, dual or eight-switch versions. All versions can be powered by the Midi output from an XAir or X32 mixer. The units can be programmed to send various Midi messages in response to inputs from simple momentary or latching footswitches. Programming is done with free software but does require the use of a USB/Midi interface or cable.

    These controllers support a wide range of Midi messages. The most useful, for use with XAir/X32 mixers, are Control Change messages for toggling mute groups. The controllers can also send two different System Exclusive messages when a footswitch is toggled. This can be used to send XOSC commands to load Snapshots or Snippets for more complex switching requirements.

    The single switch version works well for toggling one mute group - to disable FX sends while talking - or to switch between two Snapshots/Snippets. The larger models could be used for more complex switching.

     

    The MeloAudio MIDI Commander is a much more comprehensive footswitch. Although primarily designed to control guitar processors, it provides two custom layers that can be programmed to generate Control Change and Program Change Midi messages in response to the various switches. This is a very well-constructed device that can be powered by two disposable or rechargeable AAA batteries or with a USB power supply. Programming is performed using the footswitches and OLED display.

    The MIDI Commander can be used to control some XAIR/X32 functions but there are restrictions.
    Each custom layer uses the same Midi channel for all the switches and optional expression pedal. Using Midi channel 2, this allows mute groups to be operated with Control Change messages and it can load X32 Snippets with Program Change but the expression input is not usable. It would not be able to load XAir Snapshots on the same layer as mute groups.

    When a switch is set to generate Control Change messages with a toggle, the on action sends value 127 and off sends 0. The nearby LED indicates when the switch is on. This can be confusing when used with an X32 - when switching a channel/bus mute, the LED indicates that the channel/bus is muted but when switching a mute group, the LED indicates that the group is unmuted.

    When a switch is set to send a Program Change, the program number is determined by the bank switching so is not freely assignable. Sending a Program Change turns off the LEDs on Control Change switches so, although the actual mutes don't change, the footswitch no longer displays the current status.

    There is no provision for setting the starting state of the switches. After switch-on, it is necessary to click any Control Change switches one or twice to synchronize the mixer and footswitch.

    These restrictions reduce the functionality of the MIDI Commander as a controller for XAir/X32 mixers. It works well enough for controlling mutes and mute groups but the other functions are not really usable.

     

    The Source Audio Soleman is a highly configurable footswitch. It only has four switches but their actions are individually programmable with a wide range of options. Up to 64 named panel layouts can be programmed. On each panel, the LCD displays the panel name and the user-defined three-character name of each switch. Panels can be selected by pressing two of the switches simultaneously - or with an optional external footswitch. The Soleman includes an input for an expression pedal and can be calibrated to suit most pedals. The unit can be powered with the included 9V power supply or via the USB port. I power mine with a USB power-bank so I don't need to run a mains cable. Programming is done over USB using the free editor software.

    The actions of each of the four switches in a panel can be programmed with few restrictions. Each switch has a name, a default state, a latched/momentary/radio-button mode, an on action and an off action. The actions can be one of the commonly-used Midi messages on any channel and with any data values. Actions can also trigger macros - sequences of Midi messages. This is a very powerful feature that can be used to achieve complex switching. Macros can include System Exclusive messages so support XOSC commands. A simple example is to use macros so that a switch mutes one group and unmutes another - and the reverse when toggled. As the on and off actions are programmed individually, the meaning of the status LED can be set as required.

    The Midi channel and controller for the expression pedal can be programmed for each panel layout. It is possible to set minimum and maximum controller values so an expression pedal could be used, for example, to operate a channel/bus fader between, say, -30dB and 0dB for gentle level control.

    Setup macros can be defined for each panel layout. These will be run when the unit is turned on or a different panel is selected. These macros can be used to synchronize the mixer and footswitch so that the status LEDs reflect the actual mixer state.

    The Soleman includes support for Midi Tap Tempo but not, unfortunately, in a way that works with XAir/X32. On these mixers, setting tempo over Midi requires calculating the delay time, constructing an OSC command to set the appropriate time parameter for the required FX slot, encoding the command as an XOSC hex string and sending it as a System Exclusive Midi message. This is so specialized that it is unlikely to be supported by any general-purpose Midi footswitch.

    The Soleman is not a low-cost Midi footswitch but it has the flexibility to provide good control of XAir/X32 mixers over Midi in a small, well-constructed package. The only way to get better control would be to build one of the DIY designs that use OSC commands over a network connection.

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    • RexBeckett
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hey Rex @RexBeckett,


      Very good and comprehensive summary of commercial solutions to the age old question of midi footpedal control of the X-Air/M-Air and X32/M32 consoles. Thanks so much for doing all that research and taking the time to provide this summary. Wish we could sticky it like we could in the old forum.


       

      • June 9, 2019
    • RexBeckett
      Moamen

      thank your for sharing your experience
      If I want to use control change messages of the MIDI Solutions controller, X-live card has to be installed or it isn't necessary?
      (because I will replace it with X-Dante card)
      thanks

      • May 30, 2020
    • RexBeckett
      RexBeckett


      @Moamen wrote:


      thank your for sharing your experience
      If I want to use control change messages of the MIDI Solutions controller, X-live card has to be installed or it isn't necessary?
      (because I will replace it with X-Dante card)
      thanks





      @Moamen 


      No you would not need to change the option card. The Midi Solutions controller connects to the DIN Midi sockets on the console. It needs to connect to both as it gets power from the console's Midi Out.

      • May 30, 2020
    • RexBeckett
      Moamen

      thank you for your help 


      Actually I plan to purchase  MIDI solutions  F8 to control M32C but I want to ensure that I can mute/unmute by sending CC message from a toggle switch.
      Are there any considerations that I have to take care of it 

      I will assign
      -a switch to mute/unmute BUS 


      -a switch or more to mute/unmute Chanel


      -a switch or more to mute/unmute "mute group" or "DCA group'
      Is this device capable to do that?
      Thanks again

      • May 30, 2020
    • RexBeckett
      RexBeckett


      @Moamen wrote:


      thank you for your help 


      Actually I plan to purchase  MIDI solutions  F8 to control M32C but I want to ensure that I can mute/unmute by sending CC message from a toggle switch.
      Are there any considerations that I have to take care of it 

      I will assign
      -a switch to mute/unmute BUS 


      -a switch or more to mute/unmute Chanel


      -a switch or more to mute/unmute "mute group" or "DCA group'
      Is this device capable to do that?
      Thanks again





      @Moamen 


      Yes that should all be possible with the F8. All the mutes are simple Control Change messages. You can program the unit (with the free, downloadable tool) to be triggered by mometary or latching switches.

      • May 30, 2020
  • earcondition
    Regular Contributor - Level 1
    2019-12-27

    Hi All, i played around with my new Wing and found some inconsistencies/bugs in the firmware:

    1>  S.O.F. DOESNT WORK ON LEFT FADER BANK

    2>  SELF-FORCED COMPLTETE REBOOT AFTER 1 HOUR EDITING AND JUGGLING AROUND PLUGINS IN THE STANDARD RACK

    3> TALKBACK DIM SEEMS TO AFFECT ALSO TB MIC LOUDNESS IN BUSSES. NOT WELL THOUGHT OUT HERE ….. ?

    Could somebody verify, so i can turn it over to the software guys

    I also have a few (maybe stupid) questions:

    > Automation safes/scope: there ist no distinction between prefader (monitor) busses and other busses which you might well automate for shows while still doing in Ear mixes from the same console.

    > Gain structure: Subgroups can get very hot if more than 2 channels are feeding into them close to 0 DbFs, forcing me to take down faders to - 10 or even more. Does TRIM fix this gain staging problem without affecting signal integrity?

    > Multiband compression/dynamic eq as well as some "autotune" have been mentioned to be onboard as plugins, will this be soon available?

    Otherwise really great console for small clubs, tested so far with midas DL 32 I/O boxes, unbelievable sound quality at this price point, kudos to behringer !!!!

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    • earcondition
      OlaGlans

      Hi!


      I've been playing with my wing all day and no reboot at all. I used sof for fx on the first and second bank with no problems. 


      I havent tried talkback or subgroups yet. will do tomorrow. 


      //Ola

      • December 27, 2019
    • earcondition
      earcondition

      Hi Ola, thanks .... I meant the third fader bank (4 faders) on the left, not the right one, my fault ....

      • December 27, 2019
    • earcondition
      Roblof


      @earcondition wrote:


      Hi Ola, thanks .... I meant the third fader bank (4 faders) on the left, not the right one, my fault ....





      What do you mean with that it doesn't work? Please describe your issue more in detail and preferably a step by step instruction.


       


      You can definitely use the trim control for lowering the signal level. The resolution is 40-bit floating point.

      • December 28, 2019
    • earcondition
      WING_Fred Hi, i had a reboot on my wing after few hours, just one time, and it was when I was on plugins, but I don't remember if it is Prenium ou STD plugin! Have a nice day, Frederic
      • December 30, 2019
    • earcondition
      VincentAncre

      hey, small question. do you notice any difference of sound quality? on paper the sound quality of the wing is better than the x32 ... and even slightly than the m32. But if you re using a dl16/dl32 ... the whole path ( adda, preamps, thd, ... ) stays the same. I m kind of lost because the wing has no stageboxes with the same quality

      • January 18, 2020
  • Krabbe
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-05

    Hi 

    I've got a band with 7 member, who's considering buying a P16-system. Recently I stumbled upon the DP48-system, which, to me, seems more attractive than the P16-system.

    However, I'm interested in knowing if it is possible to daisy chain multiple DP48s and if so, how many units can be daisy chained?

    Fingers crossed that someone can help me out

    /Krabbe

     

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    • Krabbe
      GaryHiggins

      @Krabbe Paul or Robert will know for sure but the units use aes50 and not an ultranet port, they have an in and a thru aes50 port and power is supplied using POE so I'm sure you can link "many". The ultranet port of the p16 with p16D's added could support I believe up to 64 p16M's? Anyway I'm sure at LEAST 4 could be linked, with each supporting 2 mixes-that would give 8 people mixes of their own. My guess is it would support many more, but I'm a guesser!


      https://www.midasconsoles.com/Categories/Midas/Signal-Processors/In-Ear-Monitoring/DP48/p/P0BMX#googtrans(en|en)


       

      • November 5, 2019
    • Krabbe
      KenMitchell

      I think it might also depend on what the functionality of the "yet-to-be-released" HUB4 is when it comes to the remote configuration and also the back-channeling of the mixes.  That could limit the number of DP48s in a chain. 

      • November 5, 2019
    • Krabbe
      GaryHiggins

      @KenMitchell The Hub4 kind of sounds like the dp48 equivalent of the P16D, I'm guessing (I do a lot of that) it takes an aes50 line, adds the POE component and supplies 4 dp48's which can each then pass on 1 via aes50 thru (they each have a thru)? As you said that bidirectional aes50 48 ch count makes things a bit sticky. Can't wait to find out! I'll get 10 or so to go with my new WING

      • November 5, 2019
    • Krabbe
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi @Krabbe,


      I can provide some insight regarding this new personal mixer. Daisy chaining of the DP48 is done in a similar manner to the P16's in that each DP48 has input and thru AES50 ports and would require the included power adapter. The Hub4 provides POE on the AES50 to eliminate the need for the power adapter if the DP48 is connected directly to it (similar to the P16-D). 


       


      The Hub4 is a 1U form factor that provides for up to 4 DP48 as well as input and thru AES50 ports. But it also has a lot of routing flexibility in it. One of the features is that you can connect up to 8 stereo IEMs to the back of it, that are mixed from the connected DP48. Each DP48 can accommodate 1 or 2 musicians. 


       


      I've been beta testing these since the beginning of July with 9 tribute bands (from all over Ontario, Canada) and 9 local bands - and everyone loved them. One of the events was a Woodstock 50th Anniversary (Aug 16) that had 1 local band and 5 tribute bands in 9 hours. That allowed approximately 30 minutes between bands. As part of the transition, I had to set gains (only one band showed up for soundcheck), show everyone how to use their DP48's, change mic placement, etc. At the end of each set, I got rave reviews from each of the bands. That shows how user-friendly the DP48 can be - if the sound engineer is prepared to spend some time ahead of the event setting it all up (and the riders from the bands are up to date and accurate).


       


       

      • November 5, 2019
    • Krabbe
      GaryHiggins

      Hey Paul @Paul_Vannatto , so what is the real world limit to the number of DP48 units on a single mixer? Have they said? Can a stagebox be cascaded off (and back thru) a DP48 or Hub4? In other words if you use the DP48 on a port A or B of a mixer, is that port more or less used up or can other things still be connected? Also the aes50 assignments, are you "stuck" with the ch assignments used on a port (A or B) elsewhere for the available DP48 ch's? For instance say I use out 1-8, out 9-16 for mixbuses and foh and have 17-24 set for say aux1-6/M and then say card 1-8 for 25-32 and p16 for the rest. Are these then then also aes50 ch choices for the DP48? If so it would seem then that one might be better off keeping one port exclusively for the DP48's and use the other port for other mixers and stageboxes?

      • November 5, 2019
  • Mer_lin
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-12-23

    I recently bought a condenser mic and a Behringer Xenyx Q502 USB mixer. No matter what I try, I can't get anything from my mic besides static. I'm pretty sure I have it all setup to my PC correctly. I even took the equipment back to the store and they tested it all out so they work fine on their own. I tried everything that I can with the drivers on Windows 10 as well but nothing seems to be working. The only thing that is working correctly is that I can get audio from my PC through the usb to the headphones.

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    • Mer_lin
      Mer_lin

      I'm also very new to this, so any help and advice would be greatly apprciated.

      • December 23, 2019
    • Mer_lin
      KenMitchell

      Hi Mariah ( @Mer_lin ), 


       


      Welcome to the community.  A condensor mic requires phantom power.  Do you have the mic plugged into an XLR jack and do you have 48V phantom power turned on?   What make/model of mic is it?  


       


      Also, under Settings, Privacy, Microphone, make sure you have 'Allow access to the microphone' turned on. 


       


      Hope this helps, 


      Ken

      • December 23, 2019
    • Mer_lin
      Mer_lin

      Hello Ken,
      I do have the mic plugged into the XLR jack and the button is on for the phantom power. I have an AKG P120 microphone and the settings to allow the microphone is on as well.

      • December 23, 2019
    • Mer_lin
      KenMitchell

      OK. Where do you have the mic gain set to for Input 1?  I'd set it to about 12 o'clock. If you turn up the level on Channel 1 as well as the PHONES level, can you hear the mic in the headphones?   We need to determine if the problem is on the mixer side or the PC side. 


       


      Ken 

      • December 23, 2019
    • Mer_lin
      Mer_lin

      I kept the gain at about 12 o' clock and turned the level up for the headphones but I don't hear anything, just more static as I turned the volume up.

      • December 23, 2019
  • NickBrewer
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-06-25

    Alright. I've got a doozy here. First time attempting to use an S32. Here is the scenario:

    I have an X32 compact connected to an S32 stage box and cannot get input signal from any of the 32 input channels.

    - Both X32C & S32 have latest firmware (3.11 & 1.7 respectively)
    - Connections light up green when connected to either AES50A or AES50B via good cat5e ethercon cable (verified working on another X32C and S16 setup)
    - Verified Mic/Cable for input source work fine with X32C internal I/O
    - Routing is configured for channels 1-32 coming from AES50A 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32
    - No input with HA split enabled or disabled (pretty sure this doesn't matter in this scenario)
    - Outputs seem to work fine
    - X32C has been initialized to default settings with same results

    Am I missing something here? Is there some setting that needs to be applied that I've missed via the tutorials / instructions I've found with web searches? It seems like this should just work with the input routing settings I have applied.

    We're running an outside stage this weekend and it'd be really nice to not have to run the far to heavy analog snake.

    Thanks in advance for any help.

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    • NickBrewer
      RexBeckett

      Hi @NickBrewer,


       


      Your input routing sounds OK. Are you using the AES50-A connector on the S32? Does it make any difference if you raise the head-amp gains using the controls on the Setup -> Preamps page (on blocks AES50 A1-A8 etc)?


       


      While your Ethercon cable works with other hardware, it would be sensible to try a different one if possible. It is important that there is an end-to-end ground connection between the Ethercon shells.

      • June 25, 2019
    • NickBrewer
      garyh

      Have to ask, the mute all button isn’t depressed is it? So you are connected X32 A port to S32 A port, X32 set for int sync? Inputs 1-32 in groups of 8 are aes50a 1-8, 9-16, 17-24 and 25-32? Gains up? If so and that cable is good. I would next guess the unit is defective. Might be worth reflashing the firmware to an older one if that’s even available, or try doing 1.7 again.

      • June 25, 2019
    • NickBrewer
      NickBrewer

      @garyh 


      - Negative on the Mute-All button. It is not enabled.
      - Yes, AES50A connect to AES50A on both devices
      - X32C is set for internal sync
      - Inputs are routed from the S32 in the routing tab as stated in my original post
      - Gain does nothing to create any kind of input signal
      - I had the issue with both firmware 1.6 (which it came with) and after upgrading to 1.7 - I can always try going lower than 1.5? Really thinking that's not the issue.

      • June 25, 2019
    • NickBrewer
      NickBrewer

      I forgot to mention: I know the input routing it set properly because when I enable 48v on any given input channel it lights up the indicator light on the correct physical channel on the S32.

      • June 25, 2019
    • NickBrewer
      NickBrewer

      Hi all. Forgot to post an update. We ordered a replacement S32 and it worked instantly. It was definitely a bad unit. 


      I felt like I was going crazy. I'm probably still crazy, just not in this case! )


      Thank you all for the suggestions.

      • July 10, 2019
  • SamuelLaurenti
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-17

    I have a x32 compact I need to personalize the banks by choosing what to do on each fader by saving the scenes without ever touching the settings like gain and send. it's possible?

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    • SamuelLaurenti
      RexBeckett

      @SamuelLaurenti 


      Hello Samuel, welcome to the community.


       


      I'm not sure I quite understand what you want to achieve. You can save parts of a channel settings as a preset. When this is recalled, only the saved parts overwrite the existing settings. You can also recall (load) scenes and limit the settings that are overwritten using Scene Safes. Each saved scene can have its own set of Scene Safes. The X32 also supports partial scenes - Snippets - which can contain only those settings that you want changed. 


       


      If this is not what you want to do, please explain a little more.

      • November 17, 2019
    • SamuelLaurenti
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi @SamuelLaurenti 


      If you are meaning that you want the channel sends and sources to stay with the rest of the channel settings when you move them around, there is only one way that I know of to do that. 


      * Export your scene to a file


      * Load that scene file into X32 Scene Parser


      * Select the Surface Input filters (eg. Ch 1-8, 9-16, etc.)


      * Click on the Ch Arranger button (in the middle, bottom). This will bring you to the Channel Arranger screen.


      * Rearrange the channels to your needs by dragging them left or right.


      * Adjust the range of the channels you want changed (First Chan, Last Chan)


      * Select the Include Ch Source


      * Click on the Transfer button. This will parse out the required OSC commands and change the channel designations and place the results in the Results editor. 


      * Examine the resulting OSC commands and tweak it if needed.


      * When it is as desired, choose the destination and then click on the Output button. This will create a snippet that can be imported into the console or the X32-Edit and will only change those channels in the snippet.


       

      • November 17, 2019
    • SamuelLaurenti
      SamuelLaurenti

      in practice I need to have a master scene with all the microphones and levels, then changing the scene I need to have the channels used in that scene on the first desk in order to have the second desk free for aux and effects

      • November 17, 2019
    • SamuelLaurenti
      Paul_Vannatto


      @SamuelLaurenti wrote:


      in practice I need to have a master scene with all the microphones and levels, then changing the scene I need to have the channels used in that scene on the first desk in order to have the second desk free for aux and effects





      By "desk" are you referring to the channel bank layers?


       

      • November 17, 2019
    • SamuelLaurenti
      SamuelLaurenti

      yes

      • November 17, 2019
  • btsipsheim
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-12-10

    Hello,
    yesterday I got my WING. 
    So far, I think the console is very awesome.
    But there are two things, I can't solve:

    1. How can I lock the console? I've already press all menu-buttons like at the X32, but it doesn't work.

    2. Is it possible to get the 31 GEQ on the faders (like X32)?

    Does anybody know these both functions?

    For your interest: I put my X-Dante Brooklyn II modul into the slot inside the console, and it works. But you have online 32x32 channels. I think I've to flash another firmware on the modul. I'll keep you informed.

     

    Greetings
    Bastian

     

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    • btsipsheim
      DerickDeruyck

      Did you try the firmware updater in Dante controller ?

      • December 10, 2019
    • btsipsheim
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi @btsipsheim 


      The Wing currently does not have a console lock (like on the X32). But it does provide locks on the various configuration screens (channel strips, routing, etc.)


       


      Neither the Wing or the X32 has 31 band graphics EQ on the channel strips. But you can insert them from the FX slots. 


       

      • December 10, 2019
    • btsipsheim
      CraigFowler

      @Paul_Vannatto I think he means geq-on-faders, ie using the faders themselves to adjust the geq bands.  On the x32, you could do it, and when the faders were in the middle of the fader track they represented 0dB (no boost or cut.)  You could move them up and down, or press the mute button above the fader to 0 it.  The scribble strip would show what band the fader was adjusting.  It only worked for the 8 DCA faders.

      • December 10, 2019
    • btsipsheim
      btsipsheim

      @CraigFowler: Thank you, that was, what I mean. OK, maybe the function comes with an firmware update in future.


      @DerickDeruyck I haven't. Do you have any experience with that? Will it work as 64x64 after updating?


       

      • December 10, 2019
    • btsipsheim
      DerickDeruyck

      @btsipsheim 


      I don't have a Wing, so i don't know, but the only way to have the latest firmware on a Brooklyn II is via Dante controller (tap on devices, and you will find the updater), but, all Brooklyn II cards are 64 X64 (on 44.1 - 48 Khz), so i think its on the wing's side (perhaps in a future wing upgrade)

      • December 10, 2019
  • HeikoKnuettel
    Regular Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-14

    As soon as you click the update button the USB device is disconnected and the update progress hangs at 0%.

    When you turn the synth off and on again, and restart the Synth Tool, you get an error message saying that the synth is in use by another DAW - which isn't true. After restarting the computer you can repeat the procedure.

    Tested with Odyssey and VC340. My Pro 1 and K-2 are up-to-date, but I would bet that it is the same with them.

    And, for ficks sake...PLEASE get rid of the device autoselect. If you own more than one Behringer synth, you always have to turn off the others if you want to connect to a specific one, which is pretty annoying.

     

     

     

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    • HeikoKnuettel
      groovegsus

      I had same issue with my crave and model d.


      .I did not power off the crave , and restarted the syynth tool.


      After this i could update both device.

      • November 16, 2019
    • HeikoKnuettel
      HeikoKnuettel

      Thanks for your reply.


      In the meantime it looked like the attempts to update those two synths bricked them.


      The Odyssey disappeared from the device list in the device manager, turning off and on, using another USB cable, using another USB port didn't help, it simply wasn't recognized any more. The VC340 stopped making any sound, you could press any key you want. Was about to contact my retailer.


      I remembered the procedure to get the Neutron update running - just again and again install that special USB driver, reboot and replug and turning off and on.


      After an hour it finally worked. Despite just doing the same things over and over again.


      Behringer hardware is really great quality. The software, until the Deepmind, was too. But everything since then has been annoying as hell. They are really in need of some new developers.


       

      • November 16, 2019
    • HeikoKnuettel
      microbug

      This sounds familiar.


      Didnt I write at another place to check your USB installations with USB Deview, because of the device limit on Windows - and I assume you use that platform, since you said nothing else. There may be some driver interference as well.


      This is not a problem of the developers but of Microsoft still having that stupid USB device limit in there, that is filled up easily because even if you plug the same device to another port a new registry entry is made.

      • November 18, 2019
  • kinetic
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-05-29

    Is it just me or do others feel that this new Music Tribe forum is CRAP?  Compared to other ftraditional forums such as Steinberg, Fractal, Telecaster Forum etc etc this 'new look' forum is just rubbish to me.  In the traditional forums it was very easy to search and browse posts to do with a partuclar product or aspect of that product.  Maybe I'm just old school but this new forum just doesn;t work for me at all and I think products like the Behringer X32 NEED and DESERVE a dedicated. easy to use forum.  I hope someone wakes up and gives us a decent traditional forum SOON

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    • kinetic
      Paul_Vannatto


      @kinetic wrote:


      Is it just me or do others feel that this new Music Tribe forum is CRAP?  Compared to other ftraditional forums such as Steinberg, Fractal, Telecaster Forum etc etc this 'new look' forum is just rubbish to me.  In the traditional forums it was very easy to search and browse posts to do with a partuclar product or aspect of that product.  Maybe I'm just old school but this new forum just doesn;t work for me at all and I think products like the Behringer X32 NEED and DESERVE a dedicated. easy to use forum.  I hope someone wakes up and gives us a decent traditional forum SOON





      I can assure you that it isn't just you...

      • May 30, 2019
    • kinetic
      MarcoCervi

      e too! I'm back here after long time, but this board is very difficult to browse now. Also, accessibility is very bad now (but this is my problem, I understand). For example, Paul, I must use search function to find your MX Terminal, to see if there is any update. In previous version it was very easy, just in Behringer section and it was there. Bad luck. Marco

      • June 2, 2019
    • kinetic
      PerHeldal

      You are not alone. It's as if MusicTribe dropped a bunch of aliens in their IT-department. Nobody with a little experience from the computer industry here on earth could slip up this badly. Worse is that it now has been going on for a year with no noticeable improvement. It's so bad that the CEO should have sacked them all and started over a long time ago.


      I just wonder what happended to the corporate culture in the company when Music Group became Music Tribe.  There was a downwards spiral all the way from when Music Group became visible as an organisation on top of their subsidiaries, but with Music Tribe they just fell off a cliff. It is as if they deliberately try to scare every one off; potential customers, old customers, the whole market. All MT websites are unbearably slow. It's impossible to get to the information without waiting for minutes. It looks like every page is passed through google translate, even english2english if you look at the URLs. And this forum doesn't work for support, it doesn't work for marketing, and I can't imaginge that it is of much use to the company internally either. Is there anybody there?


      Music Tribe brands have now lost me as a customer. I'm just here every now and then to look for information related to gear I already have. I will never buy any gear from manufacturers that virtually has no support. Not online, and hardly any via their distributors or resellers either. 

      • October 25, 2019
    • kinetic
      KellyPeterson

      it is crap   It is harder than hell ot even find the forum.  

      • October 28, 2019
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