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  • stoeneboehn
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-04-27

    We have an x32 as our FOH with a s32 behind stage handling all the ins and outs except for 1 aux in for the mac audio next to the FOH console. We are going to be adding another x32 (not sure which form factor yet) to our setup for a broad cast mix. All of our video action is happening next to the FOH Console. My question being after I add the new (slave / broadcast) console and take my input signals from the FOH console thats recieving from the S32, can I use the FOH console to output my main feed to marry with the video next to the FOH console. The FOH Console currently sends the main L&R (House) to the S32 for output. Thanks in advance guys!

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    • stoeneboehn
      Paul_Vannatto


      @stoeneboehn wrote:


      can I use the FOH console to output my main feed to marry with the video next to the FOH console. 





      Yes you can. But I don't really see the need, since the whole purpose of adding another X32 is to provide independent mixing capability. 

      • April 27, 2020
    • stoeneboehn
      stoeneboehn

      Well I didn't know if the mix of 2nd console could be output there since the 2nd console will be located about 250ft away on opposite side of the church. I have 1 cat5e cable that makes it over there currently. So the mix of the broadcast console needs to make it back the 250ft to the computer next to the FOH console to marry with video. I feel I'm not describing my set up well. Thank you for your help @Paul_Vannatto 

      • April 27, 2020
    • stoeneboehn
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi @stoeneboehn 


      Make sure the cat5e cable is shielded and you have ethercons at each end and there is good continuity between the ethercon shells, in order to protect from ESD (electrostatic discharge).


       

      • April 27, 2020
    • stoeneboehn
      stoeneboehn

      @Paul_Vannatto I will thank you. Would you be available to help describe the routing layout to achieve my idea. Again I'm hoping to output mains of 2nd broadcast console on the FOH console outputs. Because the FOH outputs main on s32 behind stage.

      • April 27, 2020
    • stoeneboehn
      Paul_Vannatto

      @stoeneboehn 


      You want to send the Broadcast console main outputs to the FOH console? What is the reason for that? Normally Broadcast outputs would go via the built-in USB to a computer to be sent out the internet. 


       

      • April 27, 2020
  • GeorgeDougherty
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-09

    The large GUI values next to the virtual knobs are not updating properly when switching between instances patched on multiple channels.  The values at bottom of the screen and the knob rotation graphics update properly, but the GUI numbers stick on the last changed values.

    I'm finding that the plugin works most reliably on dialogue with a threshold set below average signal level and a target near or below the threshold value.  The middle fader will primarily reduce volume and the gain value can then makeup the average reduction.  Playing with it to try and bring up lower volume ranges frequently created excessively loud portions as the dialog went stronger over the threshold.

    I'm using high speed settings with .5s-1s hold values.

    These are fairly consistent with how I use Waves Vocal Rider to even out recorded sermon audio at my church.

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  • JAB
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-03-28

    I'm having trouble connecting the app. I've downloaded and added ip address with no luck connecting.

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    • JAB
      RexBeckett

      @JAB 


      We may be able to help if you tell us which console you have and what app you are using.

      • March 28, 2020
    • JAB
      JAB

      hello Again.

      • March 28, 2020
    • JAB
      GaryHiggins

      @JAB 


      What firmware for the M32? You may need to update the firmware to work with the latest M32-Edit version. Also check your network settings, they may have been reset during any update process.


       


      Also are you using a router or direct connecton from computer to mixer?

      • March 28, 2020
    • JAB
      JAB

      Thanks for your help Gary. I did get the edit software working. Just wondering if you had any thoughts The board saying live instead of USB

      • March 28, 2020
  • JRita
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-04-06

    I spend all day testing the mixer Dynamic settings to emulate transient responses of particular microphones, it works to a point as a transient emulator, and can be usefull.
    EQ lines of particular microphones are very easy to transpose.
    I used impulses and pink noise to get an accurate mic image, next I tested the best settings I could achieve with the Gate, Comp, Low Cut and EQ, and the result is very interesting and similar to the original mic, some better, others worse.
    I could achieve better results by using a transient designer on the FX section, but I don't want to use an FX slot for this purpose, to have the freedom to mix with all effects available, and without limits for channel use to mic modeling load.

    Pros:
    It is easy to store and very quick and easy to load Mic Model settings, even from a USB pen.
    It provides interesting EQ and Dynamic settings from popular mics
    Low Cut can be adjusted to work as the real mic
    It is possible to load on diferent channels the same profile of an expensive mic
    By reversing the gain settings of EQ bands it is possible to flatten the original mic source, for example by pluging a SM57, then loading a SM57 profile, next reversing the EQ curve it is possible (to a point) to get a flat signal from the source.
    It can be usefull for decisions of what mic to purchase by experimenting with different instruments, vocals etc.

    Problems:
    It uses channel dynamics and EQ section; but it can be changed anyway, or use FX slots for additional EQ or Dynamics.
    Proximity effect can be adjusted as the real mic behaviour but it takes an EQ band, reducing mic EQ resolution, of course proximity effect will never work real time as a mic.
    Polar patterns can be added but will never emulate room, ambient reflections, unless reverb is added.
    It can duplicate frequencies of some mics, by pluging in an D112, and using the D112 profile the mic characteristics will double.
    To work at best, the sound source must be captured as neutral as possible.

    I am working of some rare RCA mics, when I finish them I will put the profiles available for download.

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    • JRita
      RexBeckett

      @JRita 


      Hello José, welcome to the community.


       


      That's an interesting project. I shall look forward to seeing your finished profiles. I am reminded, though, of a saying from the world of signal processing: There are no adjustments that can make a donkey perform like a race-horse. 

      • April 6, 2020
    • JRita
      JRita

      I've finished 3 models for testing.
      Two classic mics: RCA 44, AKG C12; and the common Shure SM57.


      I'm very happy with the results, after extensive testing, they sounded not exactly the same, but very close and definitly have the same frequency spectrum.
      The transient response is very difficult to emulate, and it is very far from the original, but it is as close as I could get, and it certainly defines more character and realism to the profiles.


      How to use:
      Download the Zip, extract it to a USB pen.
      You should have a Microphone folder with 3 profiles inside.
      Plug the USB pen to your X32/M32
      Press Library, Utility, USB Drive Import, select (Microphones) Folder, Press All, Import; profiles are now loaded.
      (CAUTION It will erase your own Library profiles)


      How it works:
      Press Library, you should see the 3 profiles on the channel tab.
      Press SELect on the channel you want to load the mic profile, and press Load Preset. You can load to various channels very fast by pressing Sel and then Load.
      VERY IMPORTANT - Adjust you signal level input to -18dB for optimal performance.
      Low Cut - Simulates the original mic Low Cut switch, if it is not present it wont do anything.
      Gate & Comp simulate the mic transient response, you can turn it off or adjust it to you taste.
      EQ - Press LOW and adjust the LOW GAIN to simulate the Proximity Effect, it reacts as the real mic, default is as far as possible with no proximity effect. The rest of the EQ settings simulate the mic frequency response.


      Trick - To neutralize the mic frequencies of a real mic plugged in in order to get an aproximate flat response, reverse the image of EQ settings.(Change + to - and vice versa of every setting). You will have to choose the same profile of the mic your connecting.

      ANOTHER TRICK -  try to use this as a master stereo EQ, very nice results as if the whole image is captured by a stereo pair.

      Microphones Test.zip
      • April 8, 2020
  • sigma
    Triber
    2020-09-04

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  • timtrace
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-07-25

    Greetings, is it possible to use a commercially-available, foot-operated remote device to tap tempo on the X32 internal effects?

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    • timtrace
      Paul_Vannatto


      @timtrace wrote:


      Greetings, is it possible to use a remote device to tap tempo on the X32 internal effects?





      Yes you can. Mixing Station Pro (for android and iPad) has tap tempo included with the mutegroup popup screen. If you want a physical remote tap device such as a foot pedal, you can do it using an arduino (see this thread).

      • July 25, 2019
    • timtrace
      timtrace

      Paul, thanks for telling me about Mixing Station. Wow, what a great app. I can fly around in there at a speed unattainable with the MT apps.

      • July 25, 2019
    • timtrace
      Paul_Vannatto


      @timtrace wrote:


      Paul, thanks for telling me about Mixing Station. Wow, what a great app. I can fly around in there at a speed unattainable with the MT apps.





      Glad to hear that you discovered our beloved Mixing Station. I've been using it since David first released it (Aug 2013) and have been one of his biggest fans (and salesman ). If you enable the tap tempo (in the settings, app), the tap tempo buttons will be included with the mutegroup buttons (icon at the top with little squares).


       

      • July 25, 2019
    • timtrace
      PatrickGMaillot The foot controlled/operated part will not do it for Mixing Station on a tablet What is the reason for a *Commercial* product? Warranty? Support? You want to resell them? or what's 'wrong' with a non-commercial product? -Patrick
      • July 26, 2019
    • timtrace
      timtrace

      Fair questions, Patrick.


       


      I am not in any way, shape, or form prepared to start up a business manufacturing, distributing, and retailing MIDI footboards. I'll leave that to Keith McMillen.


       


      A commercial product will function as designed, and it will have support and product warranties behind it. A home-made prototype will take time and resources to design, fabricate, assemble, test, and debug, and the builder will be responsible for all support. It seems reasonable to attempt the easier solution first.


       


      I've found an example, but it's more of a boutique item than a commercial product: https://youtu.be/6Q2eEqOFmAE


       


      This having been said, I've warmed to the idea of building my own footboard with tap-tempo control. I blame Paul and his willingness to share information.


       


      If you review my post history you'll see that I'm contemplating a swap from an old A&H iLive system to an X32 system, mostly because I've grown weary of the sub-par iLive remote control software on iOS. I'm only on the fence because iLive has 2x the busses of X32, and all 8 FX are assignable anywhere, but ... that iOS app is truly miserable.


       


      It is absolutely a requirement that I be able to tap tempo with a remote footswitch, hence this topic. On my iLive, I constructed a buss muting and and tap-tempo system using the A&H PL8 module and a handmade footswitch and it's been working perfectly for many years. I'm trying to get there with the X32.


       


      I'm completely new to Arduino, but I've got experience in related areas. This will be an adventure for sure.


       


      My shopping list:
      http://amzn.com/B01EWOE0UU - Uno R3
      http://amzn.com/B07F96FF8G - 9V power, if I don't have one around here
      http://amzn.com/B07GD2BWPY - jumpers, still looking for multipin headers
      http://amzn.com/B01LZKP12X - MIDI cable for output


       


      Do you guys have any examples of a sturdy footswitch case to house the Uno, five switches, LEDs, and a panel-mount MIDI jack? Something that can't be crushed when a 225# male stumbles onto it in the middle of a set?


       


      Paul's notes in other topics and the CC numbers in the sketch don't seem to match up with the MT docs I've found so far. https://kb.musictribe.com/musickb/view/article/behringer/en_US/X32-What-Are-The-MIDI-CC-Values I'll need to modify the sketch to mute/unmute busses rather than the FX returns, so that my reverb and delay tails continue after tapping mute. Can you guys point me in the right direction?


       


      Thanks for the conversation

      • July 27, 2019
  • marosell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-23

    My bassist has a new bass cabinet with a Hartke 3500 head on it, so now I can output the sound to my XR18. I can also output from "Effect"-out on the head to the XR18 and return the signal back to the head before outputing from the cabinet. 

    I'd like to figure out a way, if possible, so that I can use an XR18 channel fader on the master fader panel to control the sound in the bass cabinet. I think I can bring the signal in on a channel and output it from an Aux with a xlr-to-trs plug back to the head, but then I'll have to control the volume using a fader on one of the busses. Is there a way to route the IN/OUT so that the master channel fader control the volume?

    Thanks!

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    • marosell
      RexBeckett

      @marosell 


      Hi Mike, you don't need to use a bus. You can drive an Aux output from a channel post fader. For example, the following would drive Aux6 from Channel 10 post-fader:


      XR18 Aux.PNGIf you don't want the bass channel in the main mix, remove it on its Main tab by clicking on the LR button:


      XR18 LR.PNG

      • August 22, 2019
  • KellyPeterson
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-10-29

    Is it possible to route efx to the p16? 

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    • KellyPeterson
      DaveMorrison

      @KellyPeterson 


      Yes. 


      If you want to send one of the consoles fx returns to the Ultranet bus, just assign it in the Ultranet:Routing menu. What mixer are you using?

      • October 29, 2019
    • KellyPeterson
      RexBeckett

      @KellyPeterson 


      You could route the FX Returns to spare Ultranet channels if you have some free. Otherwise, you could build mixes of channels and FX Returns on spare buses and route them to Ultranet.

      • October 29, 2019
  • Capntedy
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-17
    I have an Older Euro desk Behringer SX3242FX date code 0812 , I was wondering if anyone would have one that is parted out or able to part one out. I would like to find the main board that the effects module plugs into and a Power supply that is in good shape. Anyone who can help would great! Mine works but has weakness in signals getting through at times. to the sub outs. The power supply also has a busted or a loose power in connector that is usable but I would like to fix.
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  • DeclanSlater
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-02-24

    Love the WING, runnig Firmware 1.05 now, with Mixing Station Pro 1.03(10) - FANTASTIC!!

    - latest updates are really great!

    - please add the ability to copy/past between Aux and 1-40 channels!  I get discouraged often when I run into that limitation.  The x32 could, so I know you'll get there soon!  You developers are doing great!  Keep up the great work!  I hope you all get pay raises!

    - how about the "FAT channel" (Channel Strip Details) controls, and making those knobs "reassignable?"  - instead of 4 knobs to adjust 4 bands on a channel, then push a button and get 4 knobs to adjust gain, button - then 4 knobs to adjust bandwidth...  ohh, frustrating - how about knobs with assignments we can optionally choose instead?  That would be much more fitting of a true "Personal Mixing Console"  - I know, they're labeled... well, we own label makers... I would SO much rather use that entire section, instead of ignoring it ALL like I do now...  PLEASE?

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    • DeclanSlater
      GaryHiggins

      One more that may have been requested before. Adding a delay option to all buses and mains besides the Matrix ch's

      • February 24, 2020
    • DeclanSlater
      Paul_Vannatto


      @DeclanSlater wrote:


      - please add the ability to copy/past between Aux and 1-40 channels! 





      You can copy/paste from an Aux channel strip to any of the regular channel strips (1-40). I just did it. 


       

      • February 24, 2020
    • DeclanSlater
      DeclanSlater

      Hey Paul,  Thanks for the reply!


      Really? when I try, either way, all I get is this...


      WARNING


      CHANNEL TYPE MISMATCH


      SOURCE AND DESTINATION MUST BE OF THE SAME TYPE


      So, what's your trick?


      Here are my steps:


      select A1


      utility button


      select ch 40


      hit copy button on touchscreen... instant error message (above).


      hit ok, nothing happens.


      running 1.05

      • February 25, 2020
    • DeclanSlater
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hey Declan @DeclanSlater , my goof. Yes I was running with a beta firmware. So I loaded the public release and got the same thing as you. I then reloaded the beta, and tried it and got the same error. Come to find out, I forgot that the 4th layer was a mix of channels (37-40) and Aux (1-8) and copied the first channel strip (chan 37) to the last channel on the 3rd layer (chan 36). Let me talk to the developers. There may be a technical reason why this can't be done.


       


       

      • February 25, 2020
    • DeclanSlater
      DeclanSlater

      Thanks!  Whew! - Had to double check my sanity for a bit there..


      I'll bet there would be a need to display some sort of message, like what is on the X32, I think anyway... "If you do this, you'll loose some settings or something... are you sure?  Are you really sure??"

      • February 25, 2020
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