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  • howudodat
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-10-18

    I have our X-TOUCH Compact connected via MIDI to our XAIR 16.  I have a few questions on setting it up for an operator that will only adjust volume, and for someone who would actually adjust more.  We have several mixer operators that have only a basic level of training and will only be adjusting sound levels.  We also have some that think they know what they are doing and generally end up breaking things.

    X-Air Edit Software:

    • Is there a way to create a "read only" or limit the USER to only see mixer controls and have an administrator password logon?
    • Is there a way to create a "monitor" only user that just shows the complete meters when logged in? As an alternative is there another piece of hardware that can just show meters?
    • Is there a way to add to the "User" view any meters?
    • Is there a way to add to the "User" view a "switch" that loads a certain snapshot

    X-TOUCH Compact:

    • Is there any way to make the top three rows of buttons "select" high / mid / low eq controls and then the knob can adjust those frequencies?
    • Is there a way to assign a button to load a "snapshot"
    • When I first turn on the X-Touch the master slider is set to the level of the mixer, but none of the channels are.  Neither is the state of the "mutes".  How can I get the current state of the mixer to be sent to the controller?

     

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  • KlausEff
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-11-10

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    V. 4.0 is similar to V. 3.12 ? And...newest versions only found in the "legacy view". Really funny!

    Hi Paul, I am lucky not having software or firmware problems with my X32 Rack.

    What I found out was, if the new X EDIT32 V.4.0 software release comes, user I/O routing is available!

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4pvYc3zmUE

     

    @Paul_Vannatto 

     

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    • KlausEff
      RexBeckett

      @KlausEff 


      V. 4.0 is similar to V. 3.12 ?


      V 4.0 has new routing capabilities but it can still be used in the same way as V 3.12.


       


      And...newest versions only found in the "legacy view". Really funny!


      As @Paul_Vannatto mentioned in another thread, this is not the first time they have downgraded the current version before releasing the new one.

      • November 9, 2019
    • KlausEff
      PerHeldal

      Just now there is nothing. No current firmware and no legacy. The same for X/M-edit. How hard is it to manage a small archive of downloads? Why not simply keep all the old stuff in place unchanged until there is a new version? And keep all lecacy firmware/software available for download. 


      ...maybe I putting too much confidence in the clowns who still after a year do not even understand how terrible this community-site is compared to what they had before 

      • November 11, 2019
  • GaryHiggins
    Superhero - Level 1
    2020-02-10
  • Drfrog666
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-04-11

    Hi! Got my wing console on thursday and still learning it all.

    I use ubuntu studio and the wing shows up fine!

    With my focusrite I was able to route jack midi to it and out to my synths from its midi out

    With the wing I am able to jack route to the wing on ubuntu but that's where the signal stops. 

    I couldnt find anything in the wing routing panel for midi. Someone mentioned that midi isnt fully implemented yet. Is patience the answer for now?

     

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  • GeorgeDougherty
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-12

    Anyone know if Midas will ever release some SD type stage boxes?  I have an SD16 and would love to have matching preamps to a DL32 for both my personal rig and church rig.  
    My SD16 tends to live at the drum kit for live events. Stage rearranging at church has just made things to where an SD box at the new drum kit location would be ideal instead of deploying analog snakes to pull inputs to the kit. 

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    • GeorgeDougherty
      GaryHiggins

      @GeorgeDougherty 


      I don't have an answer but would buy 2 DL8's on the spot if they existed or the SD version (DD8?) for very similar reasons.

      • May 12, 2020
    • GeorgeDougherty
      GeorgeDougherty

      Have been a little confused at times by Midas variants of the x32 universe. Like why an M32 core and M air boxes but not an M32 rack?  I'd probably have at least 3 DLD16 if they existed.  Probably would have done that instead of picking up a DL32 for my portable rig. So much nicer than having to deal with a stage-side DL32 in rack and analog subsnakes. 

      • May 12, 2020
    • GeorgeDougherty
      Vasco_Romijn

      The X32 Core do not excist anymore for about 2 years, there is only M32 Core. Also there is no M32 Producer version only a X32 Compact (M32R) variant with scribble strip. Have all to do with the pro versus other markets and what they will buy. Pro users are not common tablet mixers for example.

      • May 13, 2020
    • GeorgeDougherty
      GaryHiggins

      @Vasco_RomijnActually there is no M32 "Core", it's called an M32C. Also the M32R is the same size as an X32 Producer (a Producer with scribble strips and Midas Pro preamps). The Compact is larger than a Producer or M32R and has no Midas counterpart. Also they made an MR18 which is only tablet. So I tend to agree about the marketing being a bit confusing as to why one product is made and not another. I do agree the focus is mainly the big $ Pro market though. Still IMO they would sell a bunch of M32 Racks if ever made and SD type stageboxes (MD?) with Midas preamps. 

      • May 13, 2020
  • tomacigale
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-01-14

    Hi,

    We just bought and tried an XR18 for a concert with our big band.

    We need to mixe more than 18 channels, so we plan to buy another XR18.

    We use 4 buses output for the stage and the main output for the audience.

    How can we use both XR18? Can we connect LR output from the first XR18 on AUX input (17-18) on the main XR18 (which sends outputs to power amps), and the first XR18 buses 1-4 on 4 inputs of the main XR18?

    Will it be possible to use two instances of the XAIR software (windows 10)?

    Thank you for your help!

    Thomas

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    • tomacigale
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Thomas @tomacigale 


      Welcome to the forum. You are going to run into a number of routing snafu's trying to get 2 XR18 to work the way you want. I would strongly suggest you return the XR18 and get an X32 Rack. It has 16 mic inputs and 6 Aux inputs (total of 22). If you need more, you can get an SD8 or SD16 stagebox to add more inputs and outputs. 


       

      • January 14, 2020
    • tomacigale
      KenMitchell

      @tomacigale 


       


      I second what @Paul_Vannatto said.  I'm speaking from experience and I can tell you it is not fun nor easy to do.  I did one theatrical show with 2 XR18s and the only reason I was able to get it to work was because I had all the talent mics on one mixer and the instrument mics and sound effects on the other.   It was absolutely nerve racking.   We replaced that setup with an X32 Rack and an SD16 the following season. 


       


      Ken

      • January 14, 2020
  • Pytkin
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-02-29

    Im using 75m drums for AES50 connection between X32 mounted in OBVAN and stageboxes .. For long distances I have dante card in X32 , and sending dante via ethernet trunk in our Cameras (they have 250m optical drums, cascadable) .. But sometimes i cannot use this camera trunk and need longer cables than 75m .. Sometimes I put one of our Behringer SD8 stagebox as a repeter .. But its not ideal, because I need to add a power to it or there is not good place for SD8 .. I know about Klark Teknik DN9610 AES repeater .. But it need power too .. I found now MIDAS HUB4 .. it looks interesting .. And MIdas DP48 have AES50 IN and THRU .. And its powered by POE .. Do U think that it can be used as AES50 repeater powered by POE ?

    Or .. Behringer ! Do U plan to make some nice small AES50 repetater with POE ? It will be great !

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    • Pytkin
      Pytkin

      Do U tested it ? Is it compatible with AES50 ?

      • February 28, 2020
    • Pytkin
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Roman @Pytkin 


      Unfortunately the device in the link that Gary @GaryHiggins provided won't work, because AES50 only uses layer 1 of the ethernet protocol. The Hub4 and DP48 could possibly work, since the Hub4 can power up to 4 DP48 from the 4 outputs, and it will also work as an AES50 distributor to up to 4 stageboxes (I tried it and it works). But if you connect as follows:


      X32 <-> Hub4 <-> DP48 <-> DP48 <-> DP48 <-> DP48


      only the first DP48 will be powered from the Hub4 (just like with the P16 system). 


      The other problem is that if you connect as follows:


      X32 <-> Hub4 <-> DP48 <-> S32


      you will have a DP48 placed in the middle of nowhere with buttons and knobs that someone could play with. Also it is unsure whether the repeating function of the DP48 can actually boost the AES50 signal sufficient enough for the stagebox at the other end. 


       


      There is another product that is being developed that was mentioned in one of the Wing videos, called a DL8 stagebox, which will be powered via POE type power and will work in conjunction with the Hub4. But it hasn't been released yet (even to beta testers). So we have very little details at this point.


       


      Another development is the new protocol found on the new Wing called StageConnect that will use standard mic cable to provide bidirectional 32in/32out audio plus power. Unfortunately there are currently no stageboxes or peripherals available to try it out at this point.


       

      • February 28, 2020
    • Pytkin
      Pytkin

      Hello Paul!


      I was read in desciption of HUB4 about MIDAS DL8 .. Looks interesting .. I think it can help us in more situations .. 


      I was searched here about StageConnect .. And found that there is still no stageboxes .. But cable lenghts is problem too .. I was read that it will be  work on 50-100m cable .. so it same problem like with AES50 ..  for longer distances I need repeater .. 

      • February 28, 2020
    • Pytkin
      Paul_Vannatto


      @Pytkin wrote:


      I was searched here about StageConnect .. And found that there is still no stageboxes .. But cable lenghts is problem too .. I was read that it will be  work on 50-100m cable .. so it same problem like with AES50 ..  for longer distances I need repeater .. 





      Yes but the repeater (or stagebox) will be powered by the cable and the wires in a mic cable is much larger diameter than the wires in ethernet, meaning that it should be able to handle more current. But you are correct that there is no stagebox or peripherals (even for beta testers) to try out.


       

      • February 28, 2020
  • hwa0619
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-04-09

    wing of Firmware 1.06,
    Why Channel delay moved to post fader?

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    • hwa0619
      Paul_Vannatto

      Why do you say it is post fader? Post fader to what?


       

      • April 9, 2020
    • hwa0619
      mfk1312
      Channel delay moved to post fader

      This is from the release notes to Version 1.06. I think the input delay is moved to avoid a delay on monitor mix busses, which are usually pre fader.

      • April 9, 2020
    • hwa0619
      Roblof

      I just want to confirm that the channel input delay was moved to post fader so that any inserted channel delay wouldn't affect monitor mixes or similar processing.


       


      This was highly requested by monitor engineers.

      • April 10, 2020
  • mikedigital
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-01-05

    I have recently discovered that the guitars are not coming out of the speakers. This particularly strange becuase I'm getting a valid signal from both my bass and the guitar. We are going direct out from the heads into the XR-16. Keys are going direct into the board, as are mics and those work perfectly but for some reason, no guitar and bass. We've tried plugging them into the high gain channels and...I don't know..."regular" channels. We've tried using channels that do work like the keyboardists channe or a working microphone channel and neither work. Bass is going XLR to XLR and nothing. Guitar is going 1/4 to 1/4 and nothing. Just guitar amp to mixer and nothing.

    I just don't understand how X-Air can see there is a decent signal but yet won't output anything to the speakers. We've played acoustic direct in and it works perfectly. It seems it hates electric guitars.

    Phew. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    • mikedigital
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Michael @mikedigital 


      Welcome to the forum. Make sure that those channels' Main LR are enabled (on the Main screen).


       

      • January 5, 2020
    • mikedigital
      mikedigital

      I actually pulled working inputs out and replaced it with the guitars and still got nothing out. We're talking a direct swap from working keyboards to non-working guitar. Both were showing equal signals in the x air app

      • January 5, 2020
    • mikedigital
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Michael @mikedigital 


      I have recently encountered some guitars that work fine with an active DI (Behringer DI100) but will not work with a Radial passive DI (Pro DI), probably due to the type of pickup used in the guitar. But I have not encountered any instrument plugged into an X-Air console that didn't give something of an output, albeit low level. I would suggest you save your scene to a file (using X-Air Edit for PC, Mac, linux or Raspberry Pi - not iPad) and attach it to your next response (Choose file below). We can have a look and better advise.


       

      • January 5, 2020
  • InactiveUser
    Contributor - Level 2
    2012-08-26
    Hi,

    it would be nice to have corner in this forums (perhaps even some kind of database), where it is possible to share presets for FX, EQ, dynamics etc.

    thanks
    Blechi
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    • InactiveUser
      JasonNowka I agree!
      • August 28, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      InactiveUser I agree !!!
      • September 2, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      InactiveUser It would be cool !!!
      • November 26, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      KevinHunter

      blechi;436 wrote:

      Hi,



      it would be nice to have corner in this forums (perhaps even some kind of database), where it is possible to share presets for FX, EQ, dynamics etc.



      thanks

      Blechi




      If behringer doesn't want to do this then www.x32user.net is already set up for this purpose



      Kev
      • November 26, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      JürgenKirkovits

      starstruck;1473 wrote:

      If behringer doesn't want to do this then www.x32user.net is already set up for this purpose



      Kev




      It just seems that noone wants to upload anything, not even the site administrator. The only preset that is online just initializes the console, and I wouldn't waste a scene slot for that one when I just need to go into the Setup menu.
      • November 27, 2012
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