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  • pianopop9
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-07-25

    Can anyone tell me what scene the X Air loads by default on startup? I cannot figure it out no matter what I try. Is it the last file loaded? Does it do its own auto saves periodically? I'm stumped. 

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    • pianopop9
      UlfBoettcher

      @pianopop9 


      The X-Air mixers all come up at power on in the exact state they have been before powering off. You do not have to use scenes to work with the mixer.


      However, as Dave (@DaveMorrison) wrote in the other thead, there is a setting to mute faders at startup. If you are using the ipad version to control your mixer, this is on the SETUP->AUDIO/MIDI page.


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      • July 25, 2019
  • st00p
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-20

    Been using the presnous series 3 for a while and I love the work flow but hate the preamps so thinking of going the dl32 x32 route. We do a lot of live recording so wanting the better preamps

    But one thing I have noticed in my research is the limit of true mix busses. Only 16 on the x32

    The presnous has 16 plus 4 dedicated stereo fx plus main out plus 4 sub groups . That’s 26. 

    Our set up 5 stereo in ears, plus mono wedge. 2 reverbs, 2 delays, main out and 4 sub groups.  I can also add any vintage compressor eq emulation to any channel, aux, subgroup .... all independently.

    Am I right in saying with the x32 that all aux feeds, sub groups, effects AND inserted vintage compressors have to use up one of the 16 busses. ? If that right that simply isn’t enough. Would I have to buy 2 x m32c racks to make this work ? 

     

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    • st00p
      Paul_Vannatto


      @st00p wrote:


      Am I right in saying with the x32 that all aux feeds, sub groups, effects AND inserted vintage compressors have to use up one of the 16 busses. ? If that right that simply isn’t enough. Would I have to buy 2 x m32c racks to make this work ? 





      Welcome to the forum James. Any inserted FX do not use buses, since they are inserted into the signal path. Buses are used only when FX are sidechained. Subgroups can use buses or DCA's depending on whether you need any subgroup processing. If you have 5 stereo IEM and use the 4 FX slots as sidechain, that leaves 2 mixbuses for subgroups, etc.


       


      The 16 mixbuses limitation in the X32/M32 are what they are. Please understand that the DSP engine design is nearly 10 years old (3 years of development + 7 years production) and was 1/3 the price of the nearest competitor when it was initially released. So the limitations are what they are.


       

      • August 19, 2019
    • st00p
      GaryHiggins

      I'm somewhat doubtfull of the 26 true buses on presonus. Pretty sure not on separate outs, though perhaps I'm wrong. I think if one were hyping the X32 one would say 16 mono buses, 6 matrix buses, 4 dedicated fx buses 1 mono/center bus, one main stereo=28. As for stereo in ears, you can use (keeping the FX bus on 13-16) 6 stereo mixes on 1-12 and use aux outs for adding dupes of any of those to get 3 more stereo or a total of 9. Or dont use 13-16 for fx and get 2 more on XLR (8 stereo) and 3 stereo 1/4 in aux out. Then insert fx.


       


      Does the presonus offer 9 separate tap points for each bus, each independent of the other?

      • August 20, 2019
  • SamuelLaurenti
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-17

    I have a x32 compact I need to personalize the banks by choosing what to do on each fader by saving the scenes without ever touching the settings like gain and send. it's possible?

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    • SamuelLaurenti
      RexBeckett

      @SamuelLaurenti 


      Hello Samuel, welcome to the community.


       


      I'm not sure I quite understand what you want to achieve. You can save parts of a channel settings as a preset. When this is recalled, only the saved parts overwrite the existing settings. You can also recall (load) scenes and limit the settings that are overwritten using Scene Safes. Each saved scene can have its own set of Scene Safes. The X32 also supports partial scenes - Snippets - which can contain only those settings that you want changed. 


       


      If this is not what you want to do, please explain a little more.

      • November 17, 2019
    • SamuelLaurenti
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi @SamuelLaurenti 


      If you are meaning that you want the channel sends and sources to stay with the rest of the channel settings when you move them around, there is only one way that I know of to do that. 


      * Export your scene to a file


      * Load that scene file into X32 Scene Parser


      * Select the Surface Input filters (eg. Ch 1-8, 9-16, etc.)


      * Click on the Ch Arranger button (in the middle, bottom). This will bring you to the Channel Arranger screen.


      * Rearrange the channels to your needs by dragging them left or right.


      * Adjust the range of the channels you want changed (First Chan, Last Chan)


      * Select the Include Ch Source


      * Click on the Transfer button. This will parse out the required OSC commands and change the channel designations and place the results in the Results editor. 


      * Examine the resulting OSC commands and tweak it if needed.


      * When it is as desired, choose the destination and then click on the Output button. This will create a snippet that can be imported into the console or the X32-Edit and will only change those channels in the snippet.


       

      • November 17, 2019
    • SamuelLaurenti
      SamuelLaurenti

      in practice I need to have a master scene with all the microphones and levels, then changing the scene I need to have the channels used in that scene on the first desk in order to have the second desk free for aux and effects

      • November 17, 2019
    • SamuelLaurenti
      Paul_Vannatto


      @SamuelLaurenti wrote:


      in practice I need to have a master scene with all the microphones and levels, then changing the scene I need to have the channels used in that scene on the first desk in order to have the second desk free for aux and effects





      By "desk" are you referring to the channel bank layers?


       

      • November 17, 2019
    • SamuelLaurenti
      SamuelLaurenti

      yes

      • November 17, 2019
  • GaryHiggins
    Superhero - Level 1
    2020-02-17

    New version out today.

    1. Improvements 1.04:

      • include 4-ch section for Sends-on-Fader flip (option)

      • USB stick compatibility improved

      • USB stick GPT (GUID partitions) support

      • VSS3 preset decay time fixed

      • rearrangement of some snapshot scopes and setup items

     

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    • GaryHiggins
      Paul_Vannatto

      And the tap delay (User Assign) now blinks correctly to the time set (like with the X32).


       

      • February 17, 2020
    • GaryHiggins
      DeclanSlater

      Running Wing 1.04, how did you get any of the user custom control buttons to blink?  If I set the first knob in the top most user control section to the delay time parameter, and the button in the top most section to the same, and also the lower section by the shuttle wheel - under the "user" button - to the same delay parameter:  I just get under all 3; "FX7" "TIME" - that change values (displays the current ms value only while each button or knob is touched or pushed down - ONLY).  I can never get any of those buttons to blink, or even light up at all, even while pressed.  Would you explain how you got your buttons to blink to the current delay time setting? 

      • February 20, 2020
    • GaryHiggins
      Paul_Vannatto


      @DeclanSlater wrote:


      Would you explain how you got your buttons to blink to the current delay time setting? 





      In the Setup, go into the Surface and Lights (edit) screen. Under the General section select the Tap Flash, the use the encoder to increase how many times it will blink (or ON). Pretty cool feature, eh?


       

      • February 20, 2020
    • GaryHiggins
      DeclanSlater

      Got it, Thanks Paul!


      While I got you, it looks like the firmware bug on "top jack" USB playback inputs (not the usb on back of the desk) is partially fixed, right?


      meters are pegged on any channel that is assigned to those usb playback inputs, when; using Mixing Station (Wing App) and/or when saving a snapshot on the console, having those inputs assigned to a channel- you could see the problem channel(s) lit red (not blue).  With the new firmware update, now it looks like the problem is still there (Mixing Station), but the channels do not go red and stay blue when saving a snapshot now.


      Thanks!

      • February 20, 2020
    • GaryHiggins
      Paul_Vannatto


      @DeclanSlater wrote:


      meters are pegged on any channel that is assigned to those usb playback inputs, when; using Mixing Station (Wing App) and/or when saving a snapshot on the console, having those inputs assigned to a channel- you could see the problem channel(s) lit red (not blue).  With the new firmware update, now it looks like the problem is still there (Mixing Station), but the channels do not go red and stay blue when saving a snapshot now.





      I noticed that once. But I just checked and it will be fixed in the next firmware update.


       

      • February 20, 2020
  • rwprigge777
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-06-10

    Hey guys, I'm going to be doing some troubleshooting to figure out what is going on but I figured maybe you guys would have some thoughts. I'm getting an occasional beep coming through the signal chain I have shown below. I do know that the beep goes away when I just have the DL 32 and the wing in the system without the x32 or wave server.

    4 wireless mics --> DL 32 (AES A) --> (AES A) Wing (AES B) --> (AES A) X32 (x-wsg card) --> Ethernet switcher --> Waves server --> Ethernet switcher --> (x-wsg card) X32 (AES A) --> (AES B) Wing (AES A) --> (AES A) DL 32 --> mains

     

    I'm pretty sure I can rule out anything to do with the mic and receivers, as well as the connection to the mains since the beeping does not exist on these mic channels when we were just using the Wing and DL 32. 

    I should also note that the beeping not only comes through the outputs I have routed on the DL32, but also through outputs 15 and 16 on the back of the x32.

     

    Any thoughts on what this could be?

     

     

     

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    • rwprigge777
      Paul_Vannatto


      @rwprigge777 wrote:


      Any thoughts on what this could be?





      Do you have the master clock of your eco-system set to Exp. Card on the X32 with the X-WSG card (Setup, Config, Synchronization = Exp. Card)? If not, that might be the reason for the bleeping.


       

      • June 10, 2020
  • ChrisLewis
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-09

    Hi. I recently purchased an X32 primarily for use with a live streaming project in my studio. I’m all good with that side if things, and I have it recording to Waves Tracks Live to multitrack record the bands that I’m streaming. 

     

    My question is about recording to Reaper (I have that set up too already). If I want to record tracks separately, how do I set things up so that I can monitor tracks already recorded whilst recording? I’m finding it tough to find much info about this! I thought it would just be a routing thing, but the nearest I found was someone saying something about setting the DAW so it plays back a stereo mix into the channels. Is that it? Can I have the DAW play a stereo mix back through say channels 31 and 32 whilst still in record mode?

    Sorry for my stupidity, digi desks are still very new to me!

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    • ChrisLewis
      Paul_Vannatto


      @ChrisLewis wrote:


      My question is about recording to Reaper (I have that set up too already). If I want to record tracks separately, how do I set things up so that I can monitor tracks already recorded whilst recording? I’m finding it tough to find much info about this! I thought it would just be a routing thing, but the nearest I found was someone saying something about setting the DAW so it plays back a stereo mix into the channels. Is that it? Can I have the DAW play a stereo mix back through say channels 31 and 32 whilst still in record mode?





      Hi Chris,


      Reaper, by default sends the main mix out the ASIO USB 1/2 pair. On the X32, the most efficient way to bring in only 2 USB inputs is to assign them to the Aux In Remap (Setup, home (or Inputs)). Then you can assign CRD1 and CRD2 to the desired channel strip sources (Aux 1 and Aux 2 defaults to the first 2 Aux In Remap sources).


       

      • July 9, 2019
  • MacMcIlvaine
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-10-02

    I was doing some testing and only had on mic. So I plugged it into in 1 and selected it as the source for fader 1, 2, and 3.

    The card is set for 8in/8out. Card out set to in 1-8.

    Eight channels show up in the recording software.

    But, only the first gets the mic.

    So, I slogged out two more mics and plugged them into in 2 and 3 and set the source for faders 2 and 3 accordingly.

    Now I get mic 1 on card out 1, mic 2 on card out 2, mic 3 on card out 3.

    So, what's wrong with the first setup?

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    • MacMcIlvaine
      DaveMorrison

      @MacMcIlvaine 


      When the source is Local 1-8 under Card Output tab the signal is tapped from the preamp. When the source is Out 1-8 then the Output 1-16 tab comes into play. Input/LC is the preamp, thus remap doesn't work. Anything else will tap from the channel strip. Try Pre EQ.

      • October 2, 2019
    • MacMcIlvaine
      MacMcIlvaine

      Ok, I see.


      I tried Out 1-8 and pre EQ...didn't change. (I tried the other taps as well.)


      In any case it's not something I need to do. It was just being lazy, not going and getting a couple more mics.


      (And, I was testing something unrelated, just needed 3 source channels. )


       


      Thanks,


      Mac

      • October 2, 2019
    • MacMcIlvaine
      DaveMorrison

      @MacMcIlvaine 


      Hmm. It's always good to learn something new. Let's ask Paul @Paul_Vannatto 

      • October 2, 2019
    • MacMcIlvaine
      Paul_Vannatto

      Dave's (@DaveMorrison) explanation was correct, but not complete. On the Out 1-16 screen, you need to assign the DirOut Ch 01 to the first output, DirOut Ch 02 to the second output, etc. and assign the tap to something other than IN/LC. Then it will work.


       

      • October 2, 2019
  • joluk
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-01-11

    Good evening Tribers,

    I have a Behringer Wing at home and for rental. Im very impressed by the console. 

    I was wondering wether the Automix feature is implement at the moment. I cant find it in the software of my console and I cant find any information on the internet.
    The only hint I can find is on the Behringer product page.

    Does someone knows more about that specific feature?

    I look forward to your replies!
    Greetings,
    Lukas Jost

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    • joluk
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Lucas @joluk 


      Welcome to the forum. As far as I know the answer is no, it is not yet implemented. But I have asked the developers, just in case I missed it somewhere. 


       

      • January 11, 2020
    • joluk
      joluk

      Hey @Paul_Vannatto ,


      thank you in advance. 
       
      Can you ask the developer's an other question?
      I was looking forward to the teased Behringer Wing Copilot App. Is there a release quartal, month or something else planned?

      Greetings,
      Lukas

      • January 11, 2020
    • joluk
      Paul_Vannatto


      @joluk wrote:


      I was looking forward to the teased Behringer Wing Copilot App. Is there a release quartal, month or something else planned?





      Yes it is planned on being released. When? - not sure at this point. It is currently being beta tested (this I know for sure).

      • January 11, 2020
    • joluk
      joluk

      Thanks for your fast reply.

      That sounds good. An open beta test isnt planned, isnt it?

      • January 11, 2020
    • joluk
      KevinMaxwell


      @joluk wrote:


      Thanks for your fast reply.

      That sounds good. An open beta test isnt planned, isnt it?





      Aren't all companies software or firmware releases really just a public Beta test?

      • January 11, 2020
  • Bobdafrog
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-01

    Hi everybody, New to the forum here, but I've been using the X32 in a theatre setting for several years. 32 channels has been proving a challenging limit to fit all the wireless microphones and the band. We recently acquired an X32 Rack to use as a sidecar for the band sources, and I was wondering if there was any sort of implementation that would allow the assignable encoders on the X32 to remotely control the DCA faders on the X32 Rack. I know that using an iPad with X32-mix or a computer with X32-Edit is the simplest solution, but the computers and ipad are my personal devices and the consoles belong to the theatre. It would be ideal if there's a solution that I can leave them with in case I don't return.

    Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

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    • Bobdafrog
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Bob @Bobdafrog 


      Welcome to the forum. The easiest solution is to get the theatre to purchase an inexpensive android tablet, such as the Amazon FireHD 7, and get Mixing Station (free or pro). That way you can customize the layers (and layouts using the Pro version) to display only what you want it to display and control.


       


      Another software option is to use Patrick's X32Commander. He designed it to monitor one console and control another. The downside of this is that it requires a PC to run it.


       

      • July 1, 2019
    • Bobdafrog
      PatrickGMaillot Hello X32Commander is an app that enables you to control (for example) one X32 using another one. You can set the type of OSC messages that are to be considered, change the data and even the target message. i.e you could for example control a DCA on your Rack at twice the speed and in opposite direction to the control you select from your main X32 (can be a fader or an encoder of your choice). The magic is at https://sites.google.com/site/patrickmaillot/x32#TOC-X32Commander -Patrick
      • July 1, 2019
  • JohnShepherd
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-02-02

    I am putting 2 S16s in 2 racks with 2 Furman Voltage regulators onstage. This makes shorter xlr cable-speaker/power runs and all power under my regs. The mixbus part is tough, though. 

     

    I'm using 1-6 mixbus for traditional group mixing, 7 starts my monitor mixes, but 8 has to be for stage right speakers. I need 8 to also be mixbus 2... So is this is not workable because of mixbus organized in groups of 2? 

    S16 #2 outs are 9-12 are mon mix #3-6, and  out 16 is Stage left speakers. On the board 13-16 are my fx. I'm a little confused as to how to set this up to use my S16's apart from each other. Thanks!

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    • JohnShepherd
      JohnShepherd

      Here are pics showing outs and xlr tabs. Note that I seem to have doubled the use of outs 8 and 16 using mon mix/speaker out on 8 and fx4/speaker out on 16.


       


      Then, look at the pic showing I haven't assigned outs, and to see the xlr page. I look there and it seems I have assignments - but I suppose I am missing something20200202_110333_resized.jpg20200202_110325_resized.jpg20200202_110855_resized.jpg20200202_110834_resized.jpg20200202_110740_resized.jpg

      • February 2, 2020
    • JohnShepherd
      Paul_Vannatto


      @JohnShepherd wrote:


      I'm using 1-6 mixbus for traditional group mixing, 7 starts my monitor mixes, but 8 has to be for stage right speakers. I need 8 to also be mixbus 2... So is this is not workable because of mixbus organized in groups of 2? 





      You are mixing physical outputs with mixbuses - they are not the same. Also each mixbus can be separate, unless they are stereo linked. What I think you are referring to is the channel sends taps to the mixbuses (which are in pairs). 


       


      Showing pictures don't help much in diagnosing the issues. It would be far better to save your scene, then export it to a file (use the Utility button, 6th encoder, and save on a USB stick), and attach that scene file to your next post (Choose file below).


       


      In order to send outputs to the S16, you need to setup some banks of 8's (using the Out 1-16, Aux Out, Ultranet or the new User Out), then assign those banks of 8 to the respective AES50.


       

      • February 2, 2020
    • JohnShepherd
      JohnShepherd

      Thanks very much, sir! Here is said scene. I will likely need a bit of direction to accomplish this goal.

      StartupBusSends.scn
      • February 2, 2020
    • JohnShepherd
      JohnShepherd

      So, can you set up one of these and save/send back to me so I can see what you did? I am very much a visual learner. Thanks either way!

      • February 2, 2020
    • JohnShepherd
      Paul_Vannatto


      @JohnShepherd wrote:


      So, can you set up one of these and save/send back to me so I can see what you did? 





      Yes I can do that. But first I need to understand what you want to accomplish, particularly with those first 6 groups. I had a look at the scene file and none of the mixbuses are setup at all. I did notice that the DCA's are assigned to the various channels and mixbuses. So I think you are mixing up what a mixbus does and what a DCA does. They each have completed different functionality.


       


      For "groups", are you wanting to simply have a master level control (and mute) or are you wanting to do some parallel processing? If it is the former (master level control), you can do that with DCA's alone (no mixbus required). DCA's are like your TV remote in that it controls the overall audio (and mute) of channels assigned to it. But no audio actually goes through them.


      I have removed the DCA's from the mixbus 1-6 master faders, since you also have them assigned to the channel strips. I also noticed that you have assigned channel 12 (Guitar 2) to DCA 3 and 7. You may find that the 2 DCA's will fight with each other (like husband and wife with individual TV remote of the same TV during the Super Bowl).


       


      Looking at the Routing, Inputs screen, I see that the inputs are coming in from the AES50 A port. So that is where the outputs will be returned on. If you have the interconnectivity mapping as follows:


      X32 [A] <-> [A] S16 mode 1 [B] <-> [A] S16 mode 2


      and you want to send your monitor mixes 7-12 out the first 6 outputs of the second S16, then assign mixbus 7-12 to the Routing, Out 1-16 (screen) outputs 9-14.


      Attached is the updated scene file


       


       

      StartupBusSends2.scn
      • February 2, 2020
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