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  • Drfrog666
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-04-23

    Files are intact but the timestamps are off at least for me. 

    I adjusted the time did a clean shut down and then recorded onto flash drive and sd cards 

    The first one I recorded at 18:25 today and when i looked at the timestamp on the file it was yesterday at 23:25! Nineteen hoursbehind.

    Firmware 1.06

    Is this a known issue?

     

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    • Drfrog666
      GaryHiggins

      @Drfrog666 


      Hello, I just made a few quick usb recordings and the timestamps are correct. I assume you also set date with the time? Curious if you looked at the time and date again after setting it and reboot, thinking maybe your changes didn't "take" or somehow get reverted when you rebooted.

      • April 23, 2020
    • Drfrog666
      Drfrog666

      Did you check the timestamp on a computer? I should have stressed that point. Timestamp appears fine on the wing itself.

      • April 24, 2020
  • PaulFranco
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-12-24

    Hi All.

    In the release notes for 4.01 it has listed as a new feature, "show control buttons assignable to User assigns (NEXT, PREV, UNDO, and GO)". I assume this means that you can use the show control buttons as extra assignable buttons. Am I wrong about this? I can't find where you would set these up.

    Also, does anyone know if there are midi commands you cam send to the console to start and stop SD recording?

    Paul.

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    • PaulFranco
      CraigFowler

      Not sure about the show control buttons (I can't find it in Edit,) but re the midi stuff, according to Patrick's documentation, Midi ch7, cc107, 127/0 to start/stop recording to SD card.

      • December 23, 2019
    • PaulFranco
      PaulFranco

      Hi Craig.


      Thanks for the info. Do you have a link to that documentation? Record start works but not stop.


      Paul.

      • December 23, 2019
    • PaulFranco
      RexBeckett


      @PaulFranco wrote:


      Hi Craig.


      Thanks for the info. Do you have a link to that documentation? Record start works but not stop.


      Paul.





      @PaulFranco 


      See page 135 of X32 OSC V4.0 by Patrick Maillot. You can also send 127 to CC104 on Midi channel 7 to stop recording.

      • December 23, 2019
    • PaulFranco
      PatrickGMaillot >>I assume this means that you can use the show control buttons as extra assignable buttons. >>Am I wrong about this? Unfortunately, yes, you are wrong. 4.01FW enables you to set User Assign buttons to act as show control buttons, and not to use show control buttons as additional User Assign buttons. The format to use with the /config/userctrl OSC command for this is “S9xx”, xx: Control Number “xx”: 00: PREV 01: NEXT 02: UNDO 03: GO SD transport control can be managed through the OSC command: /‐stat/urec/state enum {STOP, PPAUSE, PLAY, REC}, int with value [0..3] X‐Live! (optional) extension card state 0: STOP 1: PPAUSE 2: PLAY 3: REC -Patrick
      • December 26, 2019
  • marosell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-23

    Long time lurker first time poster! I'm gigging with my band live tonight and it's the first time we're using the bass player's cabinet. The head on his cabinet is the Hartke 3500. Previous equipment did not have the ability to send/return signal to a mixing board, but now we do.

    My question: If I bring the signal from the head into the XR18 on a channel (say, channel 2) from the effects send, then return the signal via Aux 2 to the head's return (xlr to trs adapter?), can the cabinet's volume be controlled via the XR18? I assume this would be very similar to using Bus2/Aux2 as a personal monitor, and only playing Channel 2 from this "monitor".

    Further: If so, I see that I can route the IN/OUT such that Aux2 is soley in receipt of Channel 2 instead of Bus 2. If I do this, can I control the volume going to the bass cabinet with the Channel 2 fader on the Master Fader Panel and not have to open the bus panel? Is there any other way to route signal such that the bass cabinet can be controlled from the Master Fader Panel?

    Thanks!

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  • NigelCarter
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-03

    I have an X32 Producer in a rack with all of my Axient Digitial receivers and PSM transmitters. Can anyone help me set up routing them via AES50 to my WING so they can be mixed from the wing directly? Occasionally only the rack will be needed for smaller events and I'd like to still maintain the ability to keep the current routing saved and then when used with the wing as a FOH console, have the option to switch to routing it as if the X32 is functioning as a stage box. **Side note... I'd also like the amps for the speakers on stage to remain connected to the x32 with the wireless equipment. So I need help figuring out the routing so that when using the Wing FOH and the X32 in the rack everything is mixed at FOH and then sent back to the amps. 

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    • NigelCarter
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Nigel @NigelCarter 


      For using the X32 Producer in between the receivers/transmitters, you can assign these inputs (mirrored from the Routing, home screen) to the respective AES50 screen. For the outputs, it would depend on how you have it currently setup. I would suggest you export your scene to a file (either using the Utility button on the console or X32-Edit Export) and attach it to your next post (Choose File below). That way we can see what you currently have and better advise.


       


      For accessing your receivers and transmitters directly on the Wing, you are aware that the Wing only has 8 XLR inputs, not 16 (that the Producer has). That means that if you have more than 8 receivers, you will need a stagebox to provide the necessary inputs. You can convert your existing X32 scene to a Wing snapshot using the XM32 to Wing Converter


       

      • May 3, 2020
  • Herm-JanRiemer
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-06-01

    Hi guys!

    So with churches closed we had to record our band for recorded services. I recorded 32 channel outs on an pc and mixed them afterward in Ableton with waves plugins. This really boosted the quallity of our sound and we want to try using these plugins live aswell.
    Now to my question. Is it possible to run my channels from the X32 into my DAW and than back into the X32 with the processed sounds?

    And how would i be doing this?

    Thanks in advance!!
    Herm-Jan

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    • Herm-JanRiemer
      RexBeckett

      @Herm-JanRiemer 


      Yes you could do this but latency may be a problem for live use.


       


      Are you recording the preamp outputs (by routing the Card (USB) outputs from local or AES50 sources)? If so you could route the Card (USB returns) to the required channels on Routing -> Inputs. This would insert the DAW between the preamps and the channel inputs.

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      Herm-JanRiemer

      We are recording from AES50. We've got an X32 compact for FOH use, an X32 rack for inear use and a S32 to connect all the instruments.


      So route AES50 channels into DAW like i have been doing with the multitrack recording. How would i route them back into the X32 so i can still use these faders to controll volume?


       

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      CraigFowler

      Presuming you're going S32>Rack(Mons)>Compact(FOH)>DAW


      Routing on Rack remains the same.  On the Compact, Routing>Inputs, and set Inputs1-32 to Card 1-32.  This will get you your DAW-processed signals back into the FOH console for further processing\summing.


       


      It's a bit more complicated (though still doable) to get these DAW-processed signals to the monitor console as well, but I wouldn't recommend it due to the latency the DAW plugins will add to the signals.  Although the latency added might be ok for FOH, it's probably not going to be ok for monitors, especially IEMs.  Also, you're probably going to want to ensure that you send all signals to the FOH console, even if you're only running plugins on a handful, and make the DAW run some sort of automatic delay compensation across everything to ensure the signals all remain coherent when they're summed.

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      DickStraathof

      I should recommend Waves Multirack instead of your DAW. I guess Multirack will have less latency then a DAW has plus Multirack takes care automatically of the latency ( if you run their latency calculation once on all your outgoing channels).
      I have tried S32 -> X32 -> Multirack -> X32 -> P16 to IEM once, but that doesn't work because of the latency what is created, it was unduable to play.....
      But you take your mons direct from the X32 rack, so latency will occur only to the FOH sound and than it might work... trial and error is the best way to find out...
      Good luck


      DickS

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      Herm-JanRiemer

      Thanks! We don't run P16's though. Just normal outputs into an headphone amp with wired signal to musicians. (cheap but good) Also i thought that inears never needed the processed sounds anyway. Or is that just my assumption? I have never ran them processed anyways and musicians have never cared. 

      • June 1, 2020
  • TomShields
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-10-15

    I've got a head-scratcher going on. 

    Basic setup info:

    Dual X32 racks; #2 serves as additional channel input and backup mixer.  P16M personal monitors, with a P-16D hub driving the P16Ms.  Laptop running Reaper as the DAW, connected to the X32 master unit via USB using the X-USB driver.  I use the X32 racks as FOH mixers when playing out, and as an audio interface in my studio when rehearsing and recording. My FOH mains are E-V self-powered units.

    It’s not a complicated use: a small band that plays out occasionally, and rehearses and records in my studio.

    What I'd like to accomplish:

    After a recording session, when playback is necessary - for just listening, re-tracking, or punching in - I would like the option of having playback available through:

    -  P16M system
    -  Near field monitors
    -  Mains

    ...preferably all within the same output routing setup.

    I have achieved 2 out of 3.

    I should clarify / reiterate that I am using X32 racks, and the accompanying X-Air software, not a full X32 console.

    In the DAW software, I have no individual channel hardware sends set except for being sent to the master L/R, which is mapped to hardware (USB) outputs CH 1-2.

    For playback through the P16 system, I used a tip on one of Behringer's videos and remapped AUX IN (on the INPUTS tab on the Routing page) on one of the two selectable radio buttons to CARD 1-2.  Mapped ULTRANET inputs 1-2 to DIRECT OUT AUX outputs 1-2.  (By default the AUX INs and OUTs are mapped 1:1, otherwise this would have driven me crazy.) This gives me a stereo master output send from the DAW:  DAW MASTER 1-2 >> hardware out 1-2 >> USB 1-2 >> AUX IN 1-2 >> AUX OUT 1-2 >> ULTRANET 1-2 >> P16M CH 1-2.  This works well.

    For playback to a pair of nearfield monitors, in the XLR OUTPUT section I mapped XLR OUTPUT 1-4 to receive input from CARD 1-8.  I'm feeding the nearfield monitors with XLR hardware outputs 1-2.  This also works well.

    Where I'm stuck:  I'd like to also route the same DAW MASTER 1-2 (output to USB 1-2) to the mains, which are receiving signal by default from hardware XLR OUT 7-8. I've tried a number of things to route that signal logically within the X32 to XLR 7-8 to no avail.  

    BTW through all this mapping the X32 analog inputs to the mains are working as normal (as in X32 analog input >> mains on all channels as if using for FOH).

    I hope I’ve explained myself adequately but… you never know!

    Thanks for any help.

    --Tom

     

     

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  • nelsonlugo0607
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-20

    I am using an x32 compact for FOH Mix. I'm looking to purchase the Producer for a out of house mix via live stream. I was told I could connect the Producer to the X32 compact. However, I was also told I would not be able to seperate the gain. Is that true? If so, what should I do? Thanks so much!    

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    • nelsonlugo0607
      DaveMorrison

      @nelsonlugo0607 


      You can connect them share the preamps between consoles (and send busses back and forth). The pre-amp can only be set to one value at a time. Either console can control it but only one at a time. The other console can use digital trim. I don't think it's a big deal. I set the gain at the begining of a show (leaving headrrom for "inspired" performances. If FOH changes the preamp levels in the middle of the show, the monitor mixes will likely be ruined.

      • May 20, 2020
  • marosell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-23

    I'd like to try to side chain filter compression on my lead guitar based on the vocal channel. That way his sound doesn't have to be faded in and out when we gig live and the vocalist stays forefront when signing. The problem we're having is that the guitarist understandably doesn't like his own signal being cut out from his monitor mix when he's playing; it's distracting for one, but he also needs his volume set where he can hear what he's playing. Is there a way to make sure the side chain compression is only being filtered on the Main L/R and NOT out of the monitor mix?

    FYI, the monitor buses are being sent signal "Post-EQ" which I thought was pre-compression anyways, but I guess not pre-side-chain-compression?

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    • marosell
      RexBeckett

      @marosell 


      Hi Mike, welcome to the forum.


       


      If you use the Post EQ signal tap for the guitar channel send to the monitor bus, it will not be affected by the channel compressor. See the block diagram to understand how the signal taps are arranged in the channel processing path.


      XR18 Sends.PNG

      • August 23, 2019
    • marosell
      marosell

      Thanks Rex. The Post-EQ tap is being used, but for some reason my guitarist swears he can hear his signal drop in his monitor.

      • August 23, 2019
  • iurirolho
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-09-17

    am thinking of grabbing one to use it to combine all my io into a device as my computer has some issues CPU gets high usage, I will use it for day to day use/streaming and other things like playing my keyboard sometimes or listening to cassette tapes or maybe my phone sometimes, would this mixer be a good solution to those, i don't plan to use USB as I will use it for in and out using 3/4 for my headset audio and main for audio that goes to pc, need more details just ask, my idea is to have an xlr to stereo and using either the io port for phones or the io port on the rear 3/4, would this be a good mixer or should i get something else?

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    • iurirolho
      -mjk- Hi. I have a Q502USB. Now, I know you said you didn't want USB, but one has to get I/O with the PC. I've used mine since 2016 with OBS and SLOBS. What I like about it is the To Main Mix button, which puts the USB from the PC on the mix bus. What that means in terms of streaming is - all my sources in SL/OBS are set to Monitor only (Mute Output). I hear the sources in the headphones off the mixer, and whatever comes into the mixer goes back out to the PC and thus the only Output I have set to SL/OBS, is the 2 track output of the mixer on USB. Also (and this is important) whatever is on the PC audio bus comes into the mixer too - so you could play a video in a web browser and it will make it to the stream. Skype calls become routine. This makes things incredibly easy to manage, and there is no audible latency because everything goes through the mixer. There is one mic pre and it's pretty good, plus 2 stereo line inputs. If you need more inputs/pres, just get a bigger model - but I highly recommend the USB version for streaming.
      • September 18, 2019
    • iurirolho
      iurirolho

      I don't mind usb but what I think of doing is using the analog wires to send and receive audio as I read usb is bad on that model 

      • September 18, 2019
  • matthiasremes
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-10

    I'am realy enjoying wing console and i will be using it for concerts. But besides the obious missing multiband dynamics/dyneq are there any plans for making a portico 5045 type pse dynamics processor? I't would realy help to get the wing into some corprate events. The automix is realy nice but sometimes one needs a bit more oomph on headsets.

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