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  • bettsaj
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-06-10

    Simple question really... I already have a G-Force which has good delays, however I have this urge to buy a D-Two... Is there any benefit in buying a D-two if I already have a G-force? are the delays any better?

    I play in a Floyd Tribute, and like the idea of running one delay into another (Run Like Hell for example was originally done like that, I currently have the G-Force set up with a dual delay with two different delay times to recreate Run Like Hell)

     

     

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    • bettsaj
      TC-Mike

      the D-Two has some delay types the G-force doesn't have, most notable the Rhythm Tap multi tap delay, but you are already well stocked with your existing G-Force and it's possibilities.


      If you want to expand on the G-Force delay sounds you might also consider our Flashback 2 pedal instead which has TC latest algos like  proper Tape and Analog BBD Delay emulations , Crystal delays (Shimmer type delay with an Octaver up in the feedback path) + Modulated delay where you can choose between Chorus, Flanger and Vibrato modulations on the delay repeats+ MASH technology, which is a pressure sensor build into the foot switch for realtime mangling of FX parameters. 


      Further more you can customise you own delays via the Toneprint editor and program which parameters the potmeters or the MASH switch should control.. (including parameter ranges and control of up to 3 parameters at the same time.


      And it also has a Looper build in...(20 seconds stereo, 40 seconds mono recording time)

      More infos can be found here:
      https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Stompboxes/FLASHBACK-2-DELAY/p/P0CKR#googtrans(en|en)

      Here is a screenshot of the editor to give you and idea of the parameters you can tweak:


      Tape delay:
      fb2 editor example tape echo.PNG


      In the mapping window of the editor you can customise what parameters the pots should control and then store your custom toneprints in the pedal:


      fb2 editor custom mapping of potmeters.PNG


      You can also just use the toneprint library of our many artist toneprints giving you a wide variety of great delay and echo tones ranging to snappy Slap back delays to long ambient delays with a max delaytime of up to 7! seconds in pristine quality.


      fb2 editor artist toneprint.PNG


      Hope this help and let me know if you have further questions.


      Best,


      Mike

      • June 11, 2019
    • bettsaj
      bettsaj

      Hi Mike,


      The Flashback 2 looks good, and the fact it can reproduce a Binsen is very interesting to me. There is one issue, although it can store 3 user "patches" there's no way of recalling these remotely via midi..... Is this something that will maybe looked into as an update in the future? All my pedals are off the floor in a pedal draw in my rack, and therefore a pedal like the Flashback 2 is great, but not much use if I can't select between the 3 stored user delays.


      I could ustilise it as just a Binsen clone, but i feel I wouldn't be getting the full use out of it, which it deserves.


      Andy

      • June 12, 2019
    • bettsaj
      TC-Mike

      Hi Andy,


      remote selection of settings  is not possible to implement with the FB2  . it is theoretically possible to do USB midi control, but that doesn't make too much sense in a pedalboard setting,as you'll need a laptop and DAW to send Midi commands .  If features like presets on top of Toneprint slots + full midi implementation (midi sync + remote control of potmeters) are important, then i'm happy to report we already looked into this, but this is all i can say at this point of time unfortunately.   


       


       


       


       


       

      • June 12, 2019
  • drice
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-06-13

    We have an M32 in our Broadcast TV station and the features are excellent, but we hate having to use up two faders for every stereo source input. I'm wondering if controlling a linked pair of inputs with a single fader might ever be a feature in a future firmware/software update?

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    • drice
      AnthonieHunter

      Did you consider controlling the pair with a DCA?

      • June 13, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      Using a DCA to control a stereo input is a great idea and I’m using four of them for that purpose currently. We’ve got about 10 stereo sources we’d like to have on single faders. The console has enough inputs for all of our sources, just trying to get the most frequently used ones on the top fader layer. And trying to get my sound ops used to a console that is not our analog 32 channel Verona!  Thanks for the input!

      • June 13, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      While playing around with the great options that everyone has been suggesting, I stumbled upon another possibility (provided you aren't concerned with keeping stereo separation on a particular input). This solution could also work as a kind of internal router, and works around the "routing in banks of eight only" limitation by allowing the placement of any single input on any fader. 


      Here's the theory (I have't actually tried it yet). Physically patch a cable between an available Aux Output and an XLR input in the 1-16 range (to put it on the first fader bank). Now you can internally route any one of your inputs to that Aux, and it will be available on that first bank's fader. Be sure to send that input prefader and pre-mute, then mute the actual input, so it does not feed the Main output from there. You'll now have full control of that input on the fader you chose, without having to change fader banks to get to it. You could send a stereo pair to that Aux and control it with that single fader (it will be summed mono of course), without burning a DCA or two top bank faders. 


      In our TV studio, we have to occasionally use different sources for different shows, and the mix can be unpredicatable, so having 1 or 2 "route-able" inputs can be really useful to keep the frequently used faders for that show on the top page/bank. We've got a lot of possible inputs from audio clip playback devices, graphics SFX, in-studio guest mics, phone callers, Skype guests and satellite guests, so it's not possible to keep them all on the first fader bank, and the mixer's installation makes it impractical to physically repatch before each show. I can save a scene for each possible scenario and just load the correct one once I know where all my sources are coming from for a particular show. 


      Thanks for all the great advice everyone, and I hope this idea can work for someone who might have been struggling with a similar issue (if it actually works and does not create some kind of audio black hole). 


       

      • June 15, 2019
    • drice
      KevinMaxwell


      @drice wrote:


      While playing around with the great options that everyone has been suggesting, I stumbled upon another possibility (provided you aren't concerned with keeping stereo separation on a particular input). This solution could also work as a kind of internal router, and works around the "routing in banks of eight only" limitation by allowing the placement of any single input on any fader. 


      Here's the theory (I have't actually tried it yet). Physically patch a cable between an available Aux Output and an XLR input in the 1-16 range (to put it on the first fader bank). Now you can internally route any one of your inputs to that Aux, and it will be available on that first bank's fader. Be sure to send that input prefader and pre-mute, then mute the actual input, so it does not feed the Main output from there. You'll now have full control of that input on the fader you chose, without having to change fader banks to get to it. You could send a stereo pair to that Aux and control it with that single fader (it will be summed mono of course), without burning a DCA or two top bank faders. 


      In our TV studio, we have to occasionally use different sources for different shows, and the mix can be unpredicatable, so having 1 or 2 "route-able" inputs can be really useful to keep the frequently used faders for that show on the top page/bank. We've got a lot of possible inputs from audio clip playback devices, graphics SFX, in-studio guest mics, phone callers, Skype guests and satellite guests, so it's not possible to keep them all on the first fader bank, and the mixer's installation makes it impractical to physically repatch before each show. I can save a scene for each possible scenario and just load the correct one once I know where all my sources are coming from for a particular show. 


      Thanks for all the great advice everyone, and I hope this idea can work for someone who might have been struggling with a similar issue (if it actually works and does not create some kind of audio black hole). 


       





      I am not understanding what this will give you unless you are talking about using a Mix Bus to mearge each pair of inputs.

      • June 16, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      Merging (summing) the stereo inputs to one fader is one possible use, the other is that this allows me to internally route any one of my inputs to the top bank of faders. Sure, I could do this by simply connecting that device to an input that already appears on the top layer, but the connections on the back of our mixer are not easily accessible, and depending on what sources we are using for a show, I might want to quickly place something on a top level fader that does not usually appear there. Some other mixers allow you to do this on an single input basis, but the M32 locks you into routing inputs to faders in banks of eight. 

      • June 17, 2019
  • DanielBecker
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-07

    I am trying to understand the difference between the FX 1-4 stereo return faders and the FX 1-4 faders as seen in the Aux/FX tab of X32 Edit 3.2. 

     

    I see that when in the Master bus mode, they are all up to unity and have mutes.  Click on one of the bus' and the FX 1-4 stereo are all down and have On/Off buttons, but the FX 1-4 are at Unity.  Click on an FX bus and it's the same.

     

    I get the Sends for a channel sending to the FX unit.  Thank's for the help.

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      Paul_Vannatto


      @DanielBecker wrote:


      I am trying to understand the difference between the FX 1-4 stereo return faders and the FX 1-4 faders as seen in the Aux/FX tab of X32 Edit 3.2. 





      The FX 1-4 are the mixbuses that feed the first 4 FX slots (by default). These are the dry signals in a side chain FX setup. The FX stereo returns (FX1L, FX1R, etc.) are the FX stereo returns (wet signal) from the FX engine. Both have to be up and enabled/unmuted in order to have the resulting FX in the main mix.


       

      • August 7, 2019
    • DanielBecker
      RexBeckett

      @DanielBecker 


      The Fx1L, Fx1R, Fx2L .. Fx4R faders are the returns from the FX processors in slots FX1 to FX4. The rightmost faders Fx1 .. Fx4 (or Bus 13 ..Bus 16) are the Master faders for the sends to the slots.


       


      When you select a Bus, the faders show channel sends to that Bus (aka Sends on Faders). In this view you would not normally want any of the FX Return faders raised. If an FX slot is sent its own return, unpleasant digital feedback can occur. Even though the FX Master faders are shown on the Aux/FX layer in Sends-on-Fader mode, they are not actually sends to the selected Bus. 


       

      • August 7, 2019
    • DanielBecker
      DanielBecker

      Thank you Paul and Rex.


      To make sure I have this correct: When I send a signal from a channel to the FX, I'm actually sending it to the Bus 13 - 16 that goes to the FX engine but there is a Fader before the FX. So, the Master fader controls the signal of the combined channels sent to that FX. This is as an analog board then. 


      I get side chaining as it relates (for example) to triggering a gate from another channel, but did not understand it as an FX routing.  Is it refered to as side chain because the bus can be used as a MIx Bus that also to send off to the FX?


      I can thus, send the Bus 13 - 16 somewhere else via routing, say out one of the board XLR outputs and at the same time it going to the FX? The signal to both being controlled by the Master.


      I understand you don't want the Returns up when in Sends on Fader in the FX.  Putting the Returns up in a Mix Bus 1 - 12 would send what ever was sent to that FX to that Mix Bus.  This would not be the same as having the FX acting on the Mix Bus as when one wants to have reverb/delay in a monitor mix.  For that I would Insert an FX on the Mix Bus?


      Thank you again.

      • August 7, 2019
    • DanielBecker
      RexBeckett


      @DanielBecker wrote:


      Thank you Paul and Rex.


      To make sure I have this correct: When I send a signal from a channel to the FX, I'm actually sending it to the Bus 13 - 16 that goes to the FX engine but there is a Fader before the FX. So, the Master fader controls the signal of the combined channels sent to that FX. This is as an analog board then. 


      Yes that is correct.


       


      I get side chaining as it relates (for example) to triggering a gate from another channel, but did not understand it as an FX routing.  Is it revered to as side chain because the bus can be used as a MIx Bus that also to send off to the FX?


      It is called side-chained because it operates in parallel to the dry signal from the channel to the mix bus. It is also sometimes called send/return FX to distinguish it from an inserted FX - which does not operate in parallel to the dry feed but replaces it.


       


      I can thus, send the Bus 13 - 16 somewhere else via routing, say out one of the board XLR outputs and at the same time it going to the FX? The signal to both being controlled by the Master.


      Yes you can route the FX Send Buses (13-16) to outputs or Matrix Buses if required.


       


      I understand you don't want the Returns up when in Sends on Fader in the FX.  Putting the Returns up in a Mix Bus 1 - 12 would send what ever was sent to that FX to that Mix Bus.  This would not be the same as having the FX acting on the Mix Bus as when one wants to have reverb/delay in a monitor mix.  For that I would Insert an FX on the Mix Bus?


      You can add FX Returns to monitor mixes in the same way as you would for the Main mix. The catch is that FX Sends are normally post-fader so the FX level will depend on the channel's fader while the dry monitor signal is normally pre-fader. Most reverb/delay FX processors are not suitable for use as inserts as they do not have a Mix control to set the wet/dry balance. The exception is Modulation Delay. Inserted effects are normally used where the processed signal replaces the original. e.g. De-Esser, EQ, Pitch Shift...





      @DanielBecker 

      • August 7, 2019
    • DanielBecker
      DanielBecker

      Ok, so going further.


       


      I click on the FX1 stereo return.  I go to the Sends tab and see that I can send to any of the Mix buses plus the FX bus.  I realize I would not want to send to the FX bus.  I would get that loop thing going.


       


      If I send to a mix bus, am I only sending 1 side of the stereo return to the bus?  Is there really a difference in that the stuff going into the FX did not go in stereo, can't be panned going in so I assume it does not matter?

      • August 7, 2019
  • Barkus
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-08-29

    Hello. My 3 switch works on the VE and the VL3X but my 6 switch only works on the VE not the VL3X. What gives? Thanks Barkus

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      Barkus




      (view in My Videos)

      • August 31, 2019
  • wavesequence
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-09-17

    I'm wondering if any updates after OS 1.21 are avaliable and where can be retrieved.

    Thanks in advance,

    ws

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    • wavesequence
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @wavesequence,
      Yes indeed that is the latest and last firmware update for the VoiceWorks Plus.  Hope you're still getting some use out of that thing

      • October 1, 2019
    • wavesequence
      arlopete1

      I was also searching the internet for an update for my trusty old TC-Helicon Voiceworks Plus as my unit is still on Versions 1.01. I cannot find versions 1.2 or 1.21 and wondered if you could point me to a resource or possibly (out of the generosity of your heart) send the update to me. I have spent endless hours trying to find these updates and I just don't understand why the company does not have them posted somewhere.


      Please let me know. Thanks for your consideration.


      Pete

      • February 17, 2020
    • wavesequence
      Maroliboe

      +1
      I also need the latest firmware (I think it is 1.21) for my Voiceworks plus - where can I download it, please advice
      Thanks & greetings,
      Martin

      • March 18, 2020
  • MikeBurton
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-01-14

    Hi there, 

    I have a scene with the X32 that I have attached. I didn't have any issue with it before, but now I can't seem to figure out the routing.


    In Reaper, Outs 1-2 are for our in-ear sends (Outs 1-2 XLR on the X32) and Outs 7-8 are supposed to be the FOH sends (Just backings, no click or notifications; Outs XLR 7-8 on the X32)).

    My issue is that I can get audio, but it is straight from Reaper; I can't control anything in the X32. I assume my routing must be a little buggered. While this is useable, I would very much like to be able to control levels and sends from Mixing Station or the X32 PC Program.

    What exactly am I doing wrong here? I am fairly accomplished at DAW mixing but I seem to get dyslexia when it comes to the X32 control panels.

     

    Specs:

    Running a PC Laptop connected to the X32 via USB. All drivers updated.

    X32 connected to dedicated Wifi router

    Reaper multitrack session for program changes to Axe FX and backing track files.

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    • MikeBurton
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Mike @MikeBurton 


      Thanks for providing your scene file (without asking). It makes troubleshooting so much easier. The reason why you have absolutely no control of the outputs from Reaper is that you have assigned the signals coming from Reaper (via the card in) directly to the XLR Outs in the Routing section. If you want to control these signals, you have to bring them into the console and assign them to channel strips. If you are only dealing with 4 signals (out 1-2 for IEM and 7-8 for FOH) the most economical way is to use the Aux In Remap. But is there a reason why you are using Out 1-2 and 7-8? Can you change the Reaper outputs to make them 1-4? If so, then assign Card 1-4 to the Aux In Remap. If not, you can use the new User In to bring those 2 pair together, then assign User In 1-4 to Aux In Remap.


       


      After you have mapped them appropriately, disable the Main LR from Aux 1-2 and send those signals to the mixbuses you want to control with Mixing Station. 


       

      • January 14, 2020
    • MikeBurton
      MikeBurton

      Thanks for the reply!

      There is no reason to use 7-8 other than physical separation. I can assign it to 3-4.


      The issue I am running into is that I also need to use XLR inputs for live mics (3 mics channels 1-3) as well as guitars (inputs 4-5) bass (6) and drum mics (7-8). I tried routing it but I am just getting the signal (Output 1-2 from Reaper) going into the first two vocal channels in the X32.

      • January 14, 2020
    • MikeBurton
      GaryHiggins

      @MikeBurton Hi Mike, looking at this-are you recording or just using live ch's and playing card backing/click? If just playing tracks It would seem as the card out routing has no bearing except to complicate the issue...afaict with the XLR out-if I understood-you use a spitter-so the xlr outs should be in play for your in ear and other monitor mixes. As Paul @Paul_Vannatto said in his post you are sending your 8 live ins directly out of the 8 physical XLR's. I think maybe that's the issue, the xlr out settings. I read this as none of your actual mixbusses will be assigned an xlr out just direct outs of your 8 "live" inputs. I might try a pretty basic set up of your 8 live inputs, card 9-16 to grab your first 4 backing and click, leave card out at the default and your xlr out at default (out 1-4/5-8). You can give FOH the splitter feeds of the 8 live inputs and xlr outs 7 and 8 which will have your backing tracks via mixbus 7/8. The rest of your mixes as set in out 1-16 routing. Just a thought-sorry if I misunderstand.

      • January 14, 2020
  • Trig242
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-19

    Hi, 

    I understand that the BG250 series of products has been discontinued.  I was able to purchase a new one at Guitar Center recently, will be delivered in a few days time.  The Tone Print feature was one that was a bit of a selling point for me.  I only recently discovered the series, as I only now was in the market for a bass amp.

    I downloaded the Android app and noticed the BG250 is not an option for Tone Prints.  Are these still available if I use the computer application and send via cable to the amp?

    Thanks,

    CM

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  • andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-16

    On my old x32 I had 'touch-sensitive faders' if I touched a fader it would select that particular channel.

    Does the new Wing not have this feature?

    i saw an option in the setup called 'Fader Select' but that does not do anything whether it's on or off so I'm not sure what that is for? 

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    • andyp13
      GaryHiggins

      @andyp13 


      Fader select has to do with the main touchscreen knob.


      Fader Select on = Touchscreen KNOB turning causes the selected ch fader movement.


       


      Fader Select off = Touchscreen KNOB turning does not cause ch fader movement.


       

      • May 15, 2020
    • andyp13
      andyp13

      Hi Gary


      So does the Wing not have the facility of the touch fader to select channel then? is this not an option on this desk ?


       

      • May 15, 2020
  • Muller
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-01

    Bonjour mon nu3000 ne démarre plu depuis hier il reste en rouge le ventillo c lance puis s'arrête rien de branche dessus il marche très bien ya 2 jours hier quand jai branche la prise rien reste en rouge 

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  • sigma
    Triber
    2020-07-16
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