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  • AnthonieHunter
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-27

    I have a question for a future project:
    When I record a session, where 1 channel has reversed polarity (for instance bottom snare), is that channel recorded also in reversed polarity?

    If yes, I can import it in my DAW as it is.

    If no, I have to reverse that channel also in my DAW.

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    • AnthonieHunter
      CraigFowler

      Depends on the tap point for the recording.


       


      The polarity inversion is one of the first things that happens in the channel processing, so if you're recording straight off preamps, or directly off a digital source before any processing, then the signal hitting your DAW won't be inverted.


       


      However if you're recording the DO from an actual channel, the earliest tap point on the X32 is "In\LC" which is post the polarity inversion, so signals tapped of channel DOs will have the polarity inversion hitting your DAW.

      • May 27, 2020
  • rwprigge777
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-24

    Hey guys, I'm hoping you can help give me some guidance on setting this up. I want to setup two consoles, an x32 and Wing on our system for the purposes of having two separate mixes for the house and livestream. The Wing will be for the house mix and the x32 for the livestream mix. My goal is to have both consoles taking inputs from an s32 via aes network. I currently have the Wing setup already with the s32. I also have an s16 in cascade with the s32 to give me a couple extra outputs on my stage rack. I am not using any inputs on the s16 currently. To be clear, the Wing, s32, and s16 are already setup successfully and working great. It's the x32 that I now want to add to the system for a separate livestream mix.

     

    Both consoles will be in close proximity to each other at the FOH booth. I was thinking all I should need to do is to take an ethercon from AES B (wing) to AES A (x32). Will this work? Again, my goal is to be able to take the inputs from the s32 on both consoles to make two separate mixes. 

     

    My other question then, is, where can I route my livestream mix coming off the x32? Can I route a stereo output to the s16 where I have 4 outputs (21-24) physically open currently (the Wing has outputs routed to 1 thru 20)? Or since the x32 only supports 16 outputs, do I have to have my x32 (livestream mix) coming out of 1 thru 16 on the s32? I would like to route the outputs to the stage rack 1 thru 24 vs an auxiliary local output on the x32 because of closer proximity between our livestream equipment and the stage rack.

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    • rwprigge777
      CraigFowler

      Yes you can do all that.


      The livestream console can receive a total of 48 signals over a single AES50 connection from the Wing (though only 32 of those signals can be mapped to channels with full processing, and a further 6 signals mapped to the aux channels with limited processing.)


       


      You can then send the output from the livestream console back to the Wing, and the Wing can pass it back to the stagebox outputs.

      • May 24, 2020
    • rwprigge777
      rwprigge777

      @CraigFowler 


      Thanks for the response. That's good to hear I'm at least on the right track. One question I have is related to how AES connections between consoles works. Will it be ok to connect AES B on the wing to AES A on the x32? The reason I ask is, the x32's AES B port might be broken.

      • May 26, 2020
    • rwprigge777
      CraigFowler

      Yes, that will be fine.  It's the stageboxes where you have to worry about using the A\B sockets, as on some stageboxes the B socket is only meant for daisy-chainging other stageboxes, and on some stageboxes only the A socket can get signals to physical outputs.


       


      However with the consoles themselves the A\B sockets are essentially interchangable.  You just have to set your console's routing tables to look at the correct socket accordingly.

      • May 26, 2020
    • rwprigge777
      rwprigge777

      @CraigFowler 


      I'm only really experienced routing on the Wing and haven't done much routing on the x32, so excuse my novice question, but it seems like what you're saying is: 


      I'll setup the routing on the x32 to look at the 32 inputs on AES A. And setup my 16 outputs to also go out on AES A. Then it's up to the routing on the Wing to take the x32's 16 outputs (coming in on AES B) and route those to any of the 24 outputs I have in my stage rack (s32+s16). Am I thinking right?

      • May 26, 2020
  • mightymike99
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-27

    Can't for the life of me work this out!

    Have X32 rack + S16 + S32.

    Trying to get Mixbus to send to the adat outs of the S32.... but can't seem to work it out! Hope someone can help! Thanks

     

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    • mightymike99
      CraigFowler

      With the S\DL 16\32 stageboxes, they typically route signals hitting their the AES50 inputs in the 1-16 range to their analogue outs, 17-32 range to the ADATs, and 33-48 range to their ultranet sockets.


      Stage whatever signals (eg your mixbuses) you want to appear there in the routing>out1-16\auxout\ultranet\userout tabs (assuming fw v 4+)


      (Assuming you've staged those signals in the out1-16 tab, and using the AES50 A socket on the console to connect to the stagebox)


      Go Routing>AES50A, and set Outputs17-32 to out1-16.

      • May 26, 2020
  • LiamD
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-26

    -Standard Mute off for sends to busses. This is logical because you don't want to be putting it off when you are 5 minutes to showtime and notice that all your input channels to your busses are muted. You lose a lot of time with that.

    -Standard EQ on (disputable)

    - Custom controls for channel specific functions: Gain, trim, Lowcut knob, hicut knob FOR SELECTED CHANNEL. So every time you select a channel, the custom control knows which channel to change.

    - The ability to change folder names and snapchot names inside the wing

    - when using mute groups, the groups are hard muted, maybe give the choise to hard mute or soft mute, could be nice

    - When assigning stereo channels i really get annoyed by the fact that i can only assign channel 11 to 12 for example. I would like to assign channel 11 to 10 too. Maybe with a drag-select functionality. similar to soundcraft VI-series. Many boards have this nowadays and i would like it on the wing too. Saves a lot of time in the middle of a busy evening...

    -show control features would be great too. Maybe think of the ability to add text to snapchots so you can write your cues.

    Note that these are all possible improvements that I would like to see in the future. I'm really happy with my wing already, but these could take the board to a different level.

    Regards

     

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  • LiamD
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-26

    When using the tap functionality on my wing and assigning it to the custom controls. The wing will do this perfectly to the first 7 buttons and start flashing. At the 8th button it will assign and work. But it doesn't flash. Can this be solved. It's not a hardware problem with me because the button itself works with color when i assign a mute to it.

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  • GaryHiggins
    Superhero - Level 1
    2020-05-26

    Was looking for something else and noted a new firmware version for the DP48,

     

    New Features 1.3

    • 2 separate stereo reverb processors for separation between Mix A and B

    • Stereo mode for assigning and editing two channels of a Group at the same time (long press)

    • Reverb sends are now post-fader separately for Mix A/B

    • New idle screen with Group names and pre-fader metering overview

    • Quick Group renaming by selecting from a list of common names (long press on idle screen)

    • MIX A/MIX B ‘Meter Screen’ same as idle screen but showing A/B post-fader levels

    • Talkback function using the internal microphones in conjunction with HUB4

    • Talkback signal will be exchanged between all DP48 mixers and M32 consoles via CH48

    • Automatic configuration if Talkback is active:

    o Add CH48 to assignment of Group 12 o Rename Group 12 to ‘Talkback’
    o Activate ‘MIC +20dB’ in Setup

    Configure Talkback in Setup, press and hold MIC button to speak

     

    Improvements

    • FX return default value set to -10 dB

    • ID and enumeration bugs in remote operation fixed

    • Master units update local preset copy when a X32 broadcast message is received

    • Remote function: group names are sent to remote unit

    • Group PAN had no effect when the group was assigned to a MIX as MY-Group

    • Work on local preset when the remote ID is master

    • Better AES50 error management and faster recovery

    • DP48 on HUB4 master port for remote control

    • Missing X32 messages improved

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    • GaryHiggins
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hey Gary @GaryHiggins 


      Yes this was released a few days ago. Lots of neat new features. The new idle screen means I no longer have to print off strips to label the groups for each band.


       

      • May 25, 2020
  • andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-19

    Wing Monitor outs. I’m using the wing in a studio and have my studio monitors connected to the Aux out 7&8 so I can keep the master fader on ‘0’ dB and use the monitor level control (top left) as a master room volume. Everything is ok accept I am unable to get a signal into my headphones - I need to be able to turn the monitor level off to kill the sound in the speakers and use the headphone level control for the cans, does anyone know how to be able to set this up please. Thanks ?

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    • andyp13
      Paul_Vannatto


      @andyp13 wrote:


      I need to be able to turn the monitor level off to kill the sound in the speakers and use the headphone level control for the cans, does anyone know how to be able to set this up please. 





      Press the View button, top left corner. In the Monitor section you can select headphones, speakers or both.


       

      • May 19, 2020
    • andyp13
      mfk1312

      The WING has two individual monitor outputs. One for Geadphone and one for studio monitors or similar. The default routing of the headphone monitor is to output Aux 7 and 8. you can either change this, so that the other monitor out is routed to these sockets or you can freely assign any other possible output too. And as Paul said you can configure the monitor setup using the View button in the monitor section.

      • May 19, 2020
    • andyp13
      Michaeld241

      I have same studi o set up,and mine's work awesome...how do I run a second set of monitore without piggybacking...in order to do quad monitors 


       

      • June 6, 2020
  • PatrikBouldin
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-25

    Hi, is there a published or otherwise known distance limit to connect the XR-18 to a Windows computer, via USB? I need 20' ideally, and is there a recommended cable for that distance or will an extender work?

    Thanks,

    Patrik

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    • PatrikBouldin
      LuukvanKuipers

      According to USB.org, USB operating specifications limit the maximum length of the cable to 5 meters for full speed devices and 3 meters for any low speed devices. 5 meters is around 16 feet 5 inches, and 3 meters is around 9 feet 10 inches. A X18 USB is low speed I guess.

      • May 25, 2020
    • PatrikBouldin
      PatrikBouldin

      Many thanks, I'm just wondering what max folks have experienced with PC to XR18 with the USB, annecdotally speaking. Especially now if you're saying it's a lower speed, that will help.

      • May 25, 2020
  • ChrisOjeda
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-25

    I am trying to update my firmware to 4.0 on my X32 Rack and the USB reader will not show any files when I plug my USB sticks into it. I have a FAT32 formatted stick with the firmware on it. HELP?!

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  • eastfrequencies
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-05-25

    Hello! I am trying to update my M32R LIVE! But every time I do it is saying something about the firmware's legacy "integrity". how do I fix this?

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    • eastfrequencies
      RexBeckett

      Hello @eastfrequencies , welcome to the community.


       


      How are you trying the update the firmware? Are you doing it directly on the console? If so, the firmware file must be in the USB drive's root folder with no other firmware files present (although they can be in a second-level folder).

      • May 24, 2020
    • eastfrequencies
      GaryHiggins

      Since version 4.0, if you load from a usb stick (with the mixer already on) you can have more than 1 firmware file in the root directory. Lets you pick and choose and change from old to new and back again if you want without a lot of fanfare...I would suggest downloading the firmware file again, expand the file and make sure you copy the correct file (the dcp_corefs part). The X32 uses the same firmware file so you can also try that version, it will work. These mixers are resilient so try again, your current file could have become corrupt somehow.

      • May 24, 2020
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