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  • arkatten
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-06-04

    Hi 

    just got my x32 today , and out of the box the 48volt power buttons dont seem to light up .

    and i cant get a signal from my condensor mic ..

    ive checked the manual and cant find anywhere other than the button on the desc to switch it on or off.

    and this doesnt work .

     

    any ideas ?

     

    thanks 

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    • arkatten
      RexBeckett

      @arkatten 


      Hello Ryan, welcome to the community.


       


      The button on the console affects the preamp for the currently selected channel. Each channel has independent settings for gain, phantom, etc. 


       


      You can also see/change the preamp settings on the Setup -> Preamps tab.

      • June 3, 2020
    • arkatten
      arkatten

      yeah , i got to that page , and i was able to switch the power on and off from the preamps page 2nd button from the left makes the 48v light up yellow on the display , 


      however this doesnt seem to make any difference , im still not getting a siganl coming in , or the 48v light on the desc to light up?


       


       

      • June 3, 2020
  • cracanut
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-06-03

    DCA and Subgroup spill functionality would be an absolute game changer and allow for many different workflows.

    Perhaps the spill could be triggered by double pressing the select button (similar to double pressing the 'Attention' button on Avid consoles)?

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  • Nyborg
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-03

    Hi guys, im setting up a livestream with Streamleabs using my X32 with the USB card. I got sound the sound and everything into streamlabs but the problem is the sound level on the stream. I need to have almost every fader turned all the way up. Also tried with increasing gain, but that just makes the sound far worse on the stream. The artist is also going to use monitors and it would be nice if the meters werent constantly glowing red....

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    • Nyborg
      GaryHiggins

      @Nyborg 


      Hello, try using the Ultranet or out1-16 routing instead of local for your card out's. Those menus allow you to use direct outs of the mixer ch's at later tap points like post fader. This allows more boost than if you use local which is only gain and is pre everything.

      • June 2, 2020
    • Nyborg
      Nyborg

      Thanks! That worked great, but only for the Youtube stream. Im also streaming to Facebook witch still is pretty low on volume. 

      • June 3, 2020
    • Nyborg
      -mjk- I use a stereo subgroup to feed SLOBS (so I can make a mix minus feed), and there is more than enough gain. Everything is post-fader.
      • June 3, 2020
  • ddchurch3
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-06-01

    When I try to record from XAir 18 into Garageband, I am unable to modify the output using the faders, effects, etc. I have tried changing the signal tap points on the USB Out page via iPad --analog, post-eq, post-fader -- without any change in the USB signal. The only control that seems to work is the channel gain.

    Any suggestions on other ways to modify the signal?

    Our church uses the XAir-18 for live worship, and now we're trying to use it for streaming, as well.

    Thanks!

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    • ddchurch3
      GaryHiggins

      @ddchurch3 


      Hello, sounds like what you tried should do it. Can you copy your scene and post it here? Probably the quickest way to locate the issue.

      • June 1, 2020
    • ddchurch3
      ddchurch3

      First time copying a scene; hope this works.

      Dave

      Worship Scene.scn
      • June 1, 2020
    • ddchurch3
      CraigFowler

      The USB out page shows that signals are sent post preamp (analogue tap point,) except for USB1+2, which are set to the analogue output (which is really the input) of bus6.  Although channels feed bus6 post-eq so you can make your livestream mix, you don't have any FX turned up in that bus.

      • June 1, 2020
    • ddchurch3
      GaryHiggins

      @ddchurch3 


      At present as Craig said, all USB ch's are being sent out pre everything so you won't get any XR ch processing to your daw. If you want them to include ch processing, including fader position and pan you need to make all usb ch sends (including 1/2) be Post fader. Also if bus 6 is your stream feed and sending it 2x as USB 1 and 2 is to get a stereo type feed. You might be better off linking bus 5 and 6 then you can actually pan each ch to that bus pair. Make USB out 1 be bus 5 and USB out 2 be bus 6. Daw ch's 1/2 should record your live feed stereo and 3-18 should record the rest of your ch's (17/18 being aux)

      • June 1, 2020
    • ddchurch3
      ddchurch3

      Thank you, Gary and Craig.


      So if I understand correctly, in order to send USB signal with effects and fader, I need to:


      1. Change USB send settings to "Post EQ + Mute" for any channels we're sending?


      2. Increase/decrease Fx via the Bus 6 faders, not just at the individual channel level?


      Sorry to be asking such basic questions. There is no one in our organization who has any knowledge of sound board operation. What little I have learned has been from YouTube and reading the manual, both of which leave many unanswered questions.


      Thank you for your help.


       


       

      • June 1, 2020
  • ScottKennett
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-27

    I had thought that I read somewhere that you could control the X32 across an internet connection (not just the local network, LAN). Has anyone been able to do this successfully? If so, how did you point the port to it and what software were you running to control it?

    I'm needing to set up some scenes and snippets remotely for an operator... talking them through it will take too much time, and most likely they'll mess things up from miscommunications.

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    • ScottKennett
      Vasco_Romijn

      Just like any other service behind a internet router you can also port forward the X32 Edit port to the internal IP-Address of a X32 console. At the remote side you have to enter the remote external IP-Address where the X32 console is behind to access and control.

      Another, saver option, is to create a VPN connection to the remote network and start to control the X32 console by it's local IP-Address over that VPN tunnel. A VPN tunnel give only access to the remote network with a correct username and password (and some VPN options like OpenVPN also make use of SSL keys).

      • May 28, 2020
    • ScottKennett
      ScottKennett

      In X32Edit, how do you enter the port number?

      • May 30, 2020
    • ScottKennett
      Paul_Vannatto


      @ScottKennett wrote:


      In X32Edit, how do you enter the port number?





      You don't Scott. The X32-Edit is fixed at the 10023 port for the X32/M32. The X-Air-Edit is also fixed at the 10024 port for the X-Air/M-Air consoles. Is there a reason why you want to change ports?


       


      :edit: I think you are referring to Vasco's post. I think you need to add the 10023 port to the VPN tunnel.


       

      • May 30, 2020
  • mr-jolly
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-06-02

    One of the things I miss on the Wing that exists on the X32 is the input versus output meters on the effects units. The one I find most useful is on the vintage compressors:

     

    in-out.jpg

    I find it quite helpful to be able to see what is being done to the level of the signal.

    On the Wing I could see this feature, if it could be made to fit in the UI, being in multiple steps in the signal chain; EQ, Dynamics, Inserts, etc.

    Just a suggestion in case anyone on the Wing team is looking.

    Thanks,

    -mal

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  • Pgrant999
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-06-01

    Hello all!  I am fairly new to Digital audio and it's interfaces.  I have recently gone to work at a Church, and I inherited a Midas Pro1 and I am trying to research to see if I can interface the PRO1 via AES50 to the Behringer Ultranet in-ear system (P16, etc..., to be purchased asap).   

    In my research, someone mentioned that they will not natively talk because the PRO1 operates at 96kHz, and the Behringer stuff is 48kHz (I think).  

    So QUESTION IS: what do I need to do to get a route of 16 channels/mixes out to the Berhinger in-system? Hardware converter?  A different in-ear system?  

    HELP!  Any and all is greatly appreciated!

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    • Pgrant999
      GaryHiggins

      @Pgrant999 


      Hello. Besides the 96K clock the p16 system will not work with a Pro1 as it is a proprietary protocol also requiring an ultranet port. The pro1 doesn't have that and the P16 sytems work at 48/44k. So the P16 system is out-unless you get an X32 mixer or a Midas M32, both have the ultranet. If on a tight budget, you might want to look into the P2 monitor devices. They run from an xlr cable connected to a bus output. They are cheap and sound quite good, with the proper cable 2 buses (not sure if you also have a stagebox) can be linked for stereo operation. Otherwise you will need some other form of in ear system most of which can be very expensive. Pro1 is a very nice inheritance however! 


       


      EDIT: I just thought of 1 other possibility. Using a P16I. They accept either adat or analog inputs and then output those to P16. The analog inputs of it are 1/4 in but if you had a way to convert Pro1 ch outs to 1/4 balanced or unbalaced cable, it accepts 16 ch's of analog and then you could connect the P16M's to it.

      • June 1, 2020
    • Pgrant999
      ChaseMcKnight

      Hi @Pgrant999 

      As @GaryHiggins suggested, using a Behringer P16-I and coming out analog of the Pro1 (either rear XLRs or via DL stage box) would be the most affordable option. Integrating an X/M32 over AES50, while a flexible and convenient setup, would require a Klark Teknik Network bridge and expansion card - which is quite an investment if the sole purpose is to integrate with the P16 system.  

      • June 2, 2020
  • andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-26

    Does the data wheel on the Wing do anything? or is there a problem with my desk?

     

     

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    • andyp13
      Paul_Vannatto


      @andyp13 wrote:


      Does the data wheel on the Wing do anything? or is there a problem with my desk?





      No problem with your desk. It currently has very little functionality, but will be used much more in the next firmware release.


       

      • May 25, 2020
    • andyp13
      mfk1312

      Hi Paul,


      Is there any offical estimation for the next release?


       


      regards

      • May 26, 2020
  • Herm-JanRiemer
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-06-01

    Hi guys!

    So with churches closed we had to record our band for recorded services. I recorded 32 channel outs on an pc and mixed them afterward in Ableton with waves plugins. This really boosted the quallity of our sound and we want to try using these plugins live aswell.
    Now to my question. Is it possible to run my channels from the X32 into my DAW and than back into the X32 with the processed sounds?

    And how would i be doing this?

    Thanks in advance!!
    Herm-Jan

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    • Herm-JanRiemer
      RexBeckett

      @Herm-JanRiemer 


      Yes you could do this but latency may be a problem for live use.


       


      Are you recording the preamp outputs (by routing the Card (USB) outputs from local or AES50 sources)? If so you could route the Card (USB returns) to the required channels on Routing -> Inputs. This would insert the DAW between the preamps and the channel inputs.

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      Herm-JanRiemer

      We are recording from AES50. We've got an X32 compact for FOH use, an X32 rack for inear use and a S32 to connect all the instruments.


      So route AES50 channels into DAW like i have been doing with the multitrack recording. How would i route them back into the X32 so i can still use these faders to controll volume?


       

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      CraigFowler

      Presuming you're going S32>Rack(Mons)>Compact(FOH)>DAW


      Routing on Rack remains the same.  On the Compact, Routing>Inputs, and set Inputs1-32 to Card 1-32.  This will get you your DAW-processed signals back into the FOH console for further processing\summing.


       


      It's a bit more complicated (though still doable) to get these DAW-processed signals to the monitor console as well, but I wouldn't recommend it due to the latency the DAW plugins will add to the signals.  Although the latency added might be ok for FOH, it's probably not going to be ok for monitors, especially IEMs.  Also, you're probably going to want to ensure that you send all signals to the FOH console, even if you're only running plugins on a handful, and make the DAW run some sort of automatic delay compensation across everything to ensure the signals all remain coherent when they're summed.

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      DickStraathof

      I should recommend Waves Multirack instead of your DAW. I guess Multirack will have less latency then a DAW has plus Multirack takes care automatically of the latency ( if you run their latency calculation once on all your outgoing channels).
      I have tried S32 -> X32 -> Multirack -> X32 -> P16 to IEM once, but that doesn't work because of the latency what is created, it was unduable to play.....
      But you take your mons direct from the X32 rack, so latency will occur only to the FOH sound and than it might work... trial and error is the best way to find out...
      Good luck


      DickS

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      Herm-JanRiemer

      Thanks! We don't run P16's though. Just normal outputs into an headphone amp with wired signal to musicians. (cheap but good) Also i thought that inears never needed the processed sounds anyway. Or is that just my assumption? I have never ran them processed anyways and musicians have never cared. 

      • June 1, 2020
  • weason
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-01

    We are trying to direct record from the M32 to a MAC Air using Pro Presenter.  The DN32 is seen by the MAC, but the volume is low.  Any suggestions on how to increase the output volume?

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    • weason
      GaryHiggins

      @weason 


      Hello, what tap point are you using? If you use "local" as the source for card out, the gain setting is all you can boost but of course not to the point of distortion. If you change the source of card out using utranet out, out 1-16 or aux out you can then use direct outputs of your ch's at post fader or post eq etc and get some further boost that way.

      • June 1, 2020
    • weason
      weason

      Yes, we are using "local outs".  Routing seems difficult - may not be but it's confusing.  And of course the user guide isn't much help.


      So changing to the Ultranet 1-16 outs is there a way to adjust the overall gain or is it still per chanel?

      • June 1, 2020
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