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  • Greyhound10
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-20

    Hi everyone. I come from the world of location audio for TV/Film so mixing with this big a digital desk is a whole new animal to me. I am curious  how I can send a single channel strip to multiple mix buses. Here is my scenario. Corporate webcast w/ Multiple presenters, call-ins, music and VOG mic. Feeding audio from our location to multiple sites. 

    1) Phone participants can call in. I do a mix minus so i don't send it back out but send it to small stage monitors on set so hosts can hear them.

    2) I have to send music and VOG out to the main mix as well as the stage monitors. So my question is can I send individual channel strips to multiple mix buses at the same time? Ss that main show get participants, VOG and Music while phone, music and VOG get sent to floor speakers. Any advice on proper set up would be appreciated. Thanks

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    • Greyhound10
      GaryHiggins

      @Greyhound10 


      Hello, yes you can send any or all ch strips (inputs) to multiple buses at the same time. Generally the last 4 of the 16 mixbuses are used for fx sends, but that still leaves 12 different buses you can use and send where you please with whatever ch's you want to send.

      • May 20, 2020
    • Greyhound10
      KevinMaxwell

      Yes you can. But which mixer are you using this forum covers a lot of them.

      • May 20, 2020
    • Greyhound10
      Greyhound10

      I am using the X32.


       

      • May 20, 2020
  • sgruber9
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-20

    I'm working with a Behringer x32 for our church and am not sure how to change the level of effects on individual channels that are part of a matrix. I know how to do this just for the main mix, but not for a matrix. I think it has to do with the concept of post and pre-faders, which I finally understand the difference between. I'm relatively new to the sound world, so thanks in advance for your patience.

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    • sgruber9
      GaryHiggins

      @sgruber9 


      EDIT: I have edited this post as I had originally given some bad advice (thanks George!) Hope this is better!.


      Hello, matrix ch's can only have mixbuses and the mains in them. So ch's requiring more or less fx would likely get them by going to an fx bus first, usually bus 13-16, then the fx RETURNS for that particular effect would be added to: either an already existing mixbus in your matrix, or by creating a new mixbus that only has the desired fx return(s) in it then adding that to your matrix. Maybe then just increasing or decreasing the level of that bus (whichever one has that ch and fx you wanted) within the matrix, will do what you wanted.


       


       

      • May 20, 2020
    • sgruber9
      GeorgeDougherty

      Gary, you've spent too much time on the Wing


      On the X32 the FX bus 13-16 sends are pre-effect, which as I think about it is possibly a good way to send more dry signal to the matrix to do what I usually want, which is the opposite of adding more fx.  In my case it wouldn't work well since my fx buses get a LC/HC at 600 and 6K respectively for the Abbey Road studio trick.


      I tend to mix verb to the Main L/R for the room, which means I usually run fx hotter than I might for the broadcast feed, so I subgroup my vocals and run the dry vocal subgroup into the matrix just enough to reduce the verb balance but not so much that the vocal balance is thrown off. 


      It's the same idea as submixing drums and adding them into the broadcast mix to make up for an abundance of acoustic drums in the room.

      • May 20, 2020
    • sgruber9
      GaryHiggins

      @GeorgeDougherty 


      Yikes...got my sends and rtn's bassakwards!...sorry. Maybe the easiest way is to then create a post fader mixbus with only the specific fx rtn ch's in it and then add that bus to his matrix. (see my edited original post)  My point was as much about a ch itself not being able to be sent directly to a matrix. It needs to be part of a bus (or the mains) so it can. 

      • May 20, 2020
  • andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-19

    Wing Monitor outs.
    I’m using the wing in a studio and have my studio monitors connected to the Aux out 7&8 so I can keep the master fader on ‘0’ dB and use the monitor level control (top left) as a master room volume. Everything is ok accept I am unable to get a signal into my headphones - I need to be able to turn the monitor level off to kill the sound in the speakers and use the headphone level control for the cans, does anyone know how to be able to set this up please. Thanks ?

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    • andyp13
      rickschwar

      I have a related problem. Like you, my studio monitors are connected to Aux 7/8, however, I hear sound in my headphones as long as the Monitor and Main output are set above zero. However, the PHONES LEVEL control doesn't do anything. Selecting the Speaker Output in the Live Monitoring section and touching MUTE, mutes the sound in the headphones as well. 


       


      Expected behavior


      - Selecting the Speaker Output in the Live Monitoring section and touching MUTE, should not mute the sound in the headphones. 


      - Changing the OUTPUT control from Headphones A, Speakers B or Both C should change determine where the Monitor output is heard. 

      • May 20, 2020
  • nelsonlugo0607
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-20

    I am using an x32 compact for FOH Mix. I'm looking to purchase the Producer for a out of house mix via live stream. I was told I could connect the Producer to the X32 compact. However, I was also told I would not be able to seperate the gain. Is that true? If so, what should I do? Thanks so much!    

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    • nelsonlugo0607
      DaveMorrison

      @nelsonlugo0607 


      You can connect them share the preamps between consoles (and send busses back and forth). The pre-amp can only be set to one value at a time. Either console can control it but only one at a time. The other console can use digital trim. I don't think it's a big deal. I set the gain at the begining of a show (leaving headrrom for "inspired" performances. If FOH changes the preamp levels in the middle of the show, the monitor mixes will likely be ruined.

      • May 20, 2020
  • rickschwar
    Regular Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-18

    If you use Mix Station Pro for Android, two new updates were released in the last 24-hours.

    Changelog v1.1.1

    - Added MIDI support for MCU controller

    Changelog v1.1.0

    Added

    - Restricted use => multiple busses

    - Fully customizable channel strips

    Fixed

    - Show and USB player not working after reconnect

    - IDCA red line not always correctly shown

    Changed

    - Layer reset does account for selected channel count

    - Meter bridge does account for layer channel count

    The non-Pro version of Mixing Station Wing is still on version 1.0.7. 

    If you are not sure how to use this app with your console. I've added a few instructions below.

     

    Using Mixing Station Pro with WING

    If you mix live sound with your WING console, I think this app is a must-have. It allows you to walk around the room and make adjustments on the console using your smartphone or a tablet. You can change anything on the channel strip, busses, DCAs, matrixes and the Main outs. This includes EQ, compression settings, gate settings are more. This is priceless to me. You can even reassign sources to destinations. All you need is a cheap wireless router that you can connect to your WING.

    Setting up this app is easy. 

    1. First, connect a CAT 5 cable between the router and the network jack on the WING.
    2. Next, select the SSID for your router on your mobile device. If you do not do this the app won’t be able to communicate with your console. Note: It will appear as ‘Connected, no internet.’
    3. Next, open the MIXING STATION app and touch ‘Connect.’
    4. The app should load in a few seconds. Once you connect you won’t have to do it again. 

     

    The documentation is good for this app. Check it out to learn much more.

     

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    • rickschwar
      curtbl

      A question, you mention in your post that show and usb were fixed, I must be missing something as I cannot find the USB player controls in the app at all.  Please advise.


      Thanks


      Fixed


      - Show and USB player not working after reconnect

      • May 19, 2020
    • rickschwar
      PatrickGMaillot

      Humm, my PC version did update, but the andoid (WING pro version) stays at 1.0.7... Anything specific that has to be done to update the phone/android version?

      edit: maybe normal afterall...

      • May 19, 2020
  • PXL_Evan
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-19

     I am using a a Xenyx 1202usb and am trying to use the borad for podcasting a for video game e-sports commentary. the problem I am having is being able to send game sound to the board itself but not out put it back to my computer so as no to cause an audio loop. I tryed to achieve this by using a mix minus setup and and control the channels individually by using the FX knob to control output from the board but still be able to the sound through headset micrphones connected directly to the board. I did indead achive the control I wanted but when I outputed the sound from the FX send port back to my computers input the recording sounded terrible! I sounded like all the sound coming into the computer was coming out of a tin can and all distorted. However when I try to output the board audio through the usb to the computer it all sound fine but loose the ability to control the game audio onthe board becasue i am not using the FX send port onthe borad. 

     

    I am at a total loss. I have been working on this for 3 day try to figure out how to get this to work and It just wont. Please help. I have scowered these forums and no one has answered this problem.

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  • dstormjr
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-18

    Hello All.  I am in the process of trying to convert from an analog mixer to the Behringer X16 Air and I made it through all the technical hurdles; initial configruation, setup as access point, etc. However, my knowledge lacks when it comes to creating the scene for live vocals and a feed for A/V equipment.  Maybe on occasion run a keyboard, guitar and provide a feed for a box drum.  If I can get it close, it should help me tweek it the rest of the way.  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

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    • dstormjr
      RexBeckett

      @dstormjr 


      Hello David, welcome to the community.


       


      To get started, take a look at some of these videos. They should help you to setup the channels, FX and monitor mixes. I recommend using XAir Edit for initial setup as it gives a better view of the configuration. 


       


      If you run into problems, save your scene and attach the .scn file to your post (see Choose File button below) and we should be able to help.

      • May 18, 2020
  • keefwoodcock
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-17

    Hi,

    Not sure if anyone can help at all. I've been trying to use FX Send and have been monitoring it using the FX to CTRL Button. It seems that you can't send anything out of FX Send without having an internal effect on it. Is that correct? I have a guitar on input one an have turned up the FX control for that channel but the only way I can get anything out of FX Send is by turning up the FX to Main Control. There doesn't appear to be an option for no effect with the control turned up. Even zero has a reverb effect. Maybe I'm doing somethging stupid? Apologies if so

    Keith

     

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    • keefwoodcock
      RexBeckett

      @keefwoodcock 


      Hello Keith, welcome to the community.


       


      The FX Send output is driven by a mix of the FX sends from the channels. This is the same signal that is sent to the internal FX processor.


       


      The FX To Main control adjusts the amount of return signal from the internal FX processor that is added to the Main mix. The FX To Cntl button sends the output of the FX To Main control to the Control Room and Phones outputs as a Solo. The FX To Main control does not affect the signal at the FX Send output. What you hear when you press the FX To Cntl button is the Return not the Send.

      • May 17, 2020
  • rclanger
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-16

    I purchased from B&H in NYC the Audio-Technica Two Person Podcasting Package which has the Behringer Xenyx q1002 USB mixer. All I want at this point is to be able to record a podcast with my wife.

    Every piece of equipment is connected with the exception of the headphones! I attempted to record using Audacity software but the line on the screen is flat.

    I really have no idea how to proceed. I am simply out of my element. I don't know the terminology at all. I took a while to figure out there was no on/off switch!

    I would be thankful for any and all help just to be able to record a podcast with the equipment I have.

    Thanks

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    • rclanger
      RexBeckett

      @rclanger 


      Hello Robert, welcome to the community.


       


      See if these notes help you to get it working. If not, take a photo of the mixer showing the connections and controls and include it in your post (click on Photos at the top).

      • May 15, 2020
    • rclanger
      rclanger

      Thank you for your suggestions. However, I am not doing so well. Going through the checklist you sent I came to a problem with the diagram on the first page, Sound! Your example has Line In, USB Audio CODEC, ready.


      Mine has, Microphone, USB Audio CODEC, default.


      This seems to be the only major difference between your guide and my laptop.


      I uninstalled Audacity and reinstalled with the mixer powered on just in case the laptop and mixer would plug and play. No difference. Is it possible that the numerous dials on the mixer are incorrect? Again I know nothing!


      I do believe everything is connected correctly. At least I don't have any parts not connected20200516_124739.png

      • May 16, 2020
    • rclanger
      RexBeckett


      @rclanger wrote:


      Thank you for your suggestions. However, I am not doing so well. Going through the checklist you sent I came to a problem with the diagram on the first page, Sound! Your example has Line In, USB Audio CODEC, ready.


      Mine has, Microphone, USB Audio CODEC, default.


      This seems to be the only major difference between your guide and my laptop.


      I uninstalled Audacity and reinstalled with the mixer powered on just in case the laptop and mixer would plug and play. No difference. Is it possible that the numerous dials on the mixer are incorrect? Again I know nothing!


      I do believe everything is connected correctly. At least I don't have any parts not connected20200516_124739.png





      @rclanger 


      Yes it could be a problem with the mixer settings but your photograph does not show the controls.

      • May 16, 2020
    • rclanger
      rclanger

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      Had to use my phone, other pic was to big. Hope that this is okay.

      • May 16, 2020
    • rclanger
      RexBeckett

      @rclanger 


      I would set the level controls on channels 1 & 2 to 0 (12 o'clock) and turn the channel preamp Gain controls down until the Clip LEDs just stop flashing with loud inputs. You may also want to turn the Comp controls down a bit. Raise the Main Mix fader to 0. I cannot see if the USB/2-Track To Main Mix button is pressed but it should not be when recording.


       


      What make/model of microphones are you using?

      • May 16, 2020
  • AnthonySeifert
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-12

    I have a Wing on V1.06 and cannot get the Wing to communicate between two IP routed subnets. My configuration involves (2) subnets 10.0.1.0/24 and 10.0.2.0/24. I have a Ubquiti wireless router routing between the (2) subnets addressed to 10.0.1.1 and 10.0.2.1 respectively on each subnet.

    Wing will not use the default gateway 10.0.1.1 and communicate with my iPad/PC or even respond to pings from any device on 10.0.2.x network. Again put the X32 or my PRO1 in place of the Wing same addressing and works just fine.

    Behringer is the IP protocol stack still not 100%? I am betting this IS the case because the Copilot will not even let you enter an IP address outside the iPads own DHCP subnet range. 

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    • AnthonySeifert
      PatrickGMaillot

      Anthony,


      Your issue is most likely more a networking issue than a WING issue per se, unless as you mentioned on the FB thread you opened on the subject, it is a bug in the WING netweork stack implementation.


      The Behringer engineers will linkely look into the issue, if there is one. In the meantime, there seems to be several alternatives or workarounds suggested by fellow musicians on FB that can help.


      -P

      • May 14, 2020
    • AnthonySeifert
      AnthonySeifert

      Patrick, I have workarounds and all my data indicates a bug with the Wing IP stack. I was hopeful I could drop the Wing into my production network configuration I have been using for a couple of years now with both my XM32s and PRO1, but just not workable, and confirmed by another engineer as well.


      So to your knowledge and experience, I should open a tread with possible bug in the forum to potential get Behringer looking at the issue?

      • May 15, 2020
    • AnthonySeifert
      PatrickGMaillot

      Hello,


      WING engineering developers will try to duplicate the issue and test. I gave them the description you provided on FB.


      -Patrick

      • May 15, 2020
    • AnthonySeifert
      PatrickGMaillot

      Tested. There was indeed a bug. Will be fixed in the next release.



      -Patrick

      • May 15, 2020
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