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  • AnthonieHunter
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-27

    I have a question for a future project:
    When I record a session, where 1 channel has reversed polarity (for instance bottom snare), is that channel recorded also in reversed polarity?

    If yes, I can import it in my DAW as it is.

    If no, I have to reverse that channel also in my DAW.

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    • AnthonieHunter
      CraigFowler

      Depends on the tap point for the recording.


       


      The polarity inversion is one of the first things that happens in the channel processing, so if you're recording straight off preamps, or directly off a digital source before any processing, then the signal hitting your DAW won't be inverted.


       


      However if you're recording the DO from an actual channel, the earliest tap point on the X32 is "In\LC" which is post the polarity inversion, so signals tapped of channel DOs will have the polarity inversion hitting your DAW.

      • May 27, 2020
  • rwprigge777
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-24

    Hey guys, I'm hoping you can help give me some guidance on setting this up. I want to setup two consoles, an x32 and Wing on our system for the purposes of having two separate mixes for the house and livestream. The Wing will be for the house mix and the x32 for the livestream mix. My goal is to have both consoles taking inputs from an s32 via aes network. I currently have the Wing setup already with the s32. I also have an s16 in cascade with the s32 to give me a couple extra outputs on my stage rack. I am not using any inputs on the s16 currently. To be clear, the Wing, s32, and s16 are already setup successfully and working great. It's the x32 that I now want to add to the system for a separate livestream mix.

     

    Both consoles will be in close proximity to each other at the FOH booth. I was thinking all I should need to do is to take an ethercon from AES B (wing) to AES A (x32). Will this work? Again, my goal is to be able to take the inputs from the s32 on both consoles to make two separate mixes. 

     

    My other question then, is, where can I route my livestream mix coming off the x32? Can I route a stereo output to the s16 where I have 4 outputs (21-24) physically open currently (the Wing has outputs routed to 1 thru 20)? Or since the x32 only supports 16 outputs, do I have to have my x32 (livestream mix) coming out of 1 thru 16 on the s32? I would like to route the outputs to the stage rack 1 thru 24 vs an auxiliary local output on the x32 because of closer proximity between our livestream equipment and the stage rack.

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    • rwprigge777
      CraigFowler

      Yes you can do all that.


      The livestream console can receive a total of 48 signals over a single AES50 connection from the Wing (though only 32 of those signals can be mapped to channels with full processing, and a further 6 signals mapped to the aux channels with limited processing.)


       


      You can then send the output from the livestream console back to the Wing, and the Wing can pass it back to the stagebox outputs.

      • May 24, 2020
    • rwprigge777
      rwprigge777

      @CraigFowler 


      Thanks for the response. That's good to hear I'm at least on the right track. One question I have is related to how AES connections between consoles works. Will it be ok to connect AES B on the wing to AES A on the x32? The reason I ask is, the x32's AES B port might be broken.

      • May 26, 2020
    • rwprigge777
      CraigFowler

      Yes, that will be fine.  It's the stageboxes where you have to worry about using the A\B sockets, as on some stageboxes the B socket is only meant for daisy-chainging other stageboxes, and on some stageboxes only the A socket can get signals to physical outputs.


       


      However with the consoles themselves the A\B sockets are essentially interchangable.  You just have to set your console's routing tables to look at the correct socket accordingly.

      • May 26, 2020
    • rwprigge777
      rwprigge777

      @CraigFowler 


      I'm only really experienced routing on the Wing and haven't done much routing on the x32, so excuse my novice question, but it seems like what you're saying is: 


      I'll setup the routing on the x32 to look at the 32 inputs on AES A. And setup my 16 outputs to also go out on AES A. Then it's up to the routing on the Wing to take the x32's 16 outputs (coming in on AES B) and route those to any of the 24 outputs I have in my stage rack (s32+s16). Am I thinking right?

      • May 26, 2020
  • mightymike99
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-27

    Can't for the life of me work this out!

    Have X32 rack + S16 + S32.

    Trying to get Mixbus to send to the adat outs of the S32.... but can't seem to work it out! Hope someone can help! Thanks

     

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    • mightymike99
      CraigFowler

      With the S\DL 16\32 stageboxes, they typically route signals hitting their the AES50 inputs in the 1-16 range to their analogue outs, 17-32 range to the ADATs, and 33-48 range to their ultranet sockets.


      Stage whatever signals (eg your mixbuses) you want to appear there in the routing>out1-16\auxout\ultranet\userout tabs (assuming fw v 4+)


      (Assuming you've staged those signals in the out1-16 tab, and using the AES50 A socket on the console to connect to the stagebox)


      Go Routing>AES50A, and set Outputs17-32 to out1-16.

      • May 26, 2020
  • LiamD
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-26

    -Standard Mute off for sends to busses. This is logical because you don't want to be putting it off when you are 5 minutes to showtime and notice that all your input channels to your busses are muted. You lose a lot of time with that.

    -Standard EQ on (disputable)

    - Custom controls for channel specific functions: Gain, trim, Lowcut knob, hicut knob FOR SELECTED CHANNEL. So every time you select a channel, the custom control knows which channel to change.

    - The ability to change folder names and snapchot names inside the wing

    - when using mute groups, the groups are hard muted, maybe give the choise to hard mute or soft mute, could be nice

    - When assigning stereo channels i really get annoyed by the fact that i can only assign channel 11 to 12 for example. I would like to assign channel 11 to 10 too. Maybe with a drag-select functionality. similar to soundcraft VI-series. Many boards have this nowadays and i would like it on the wing too. Saves a lot of time in the middle of a busy evening...

    -show control features would be great too. Maybe think of the ability to add text to snapchots so you can write your cues.

    Note that these are all possible improvements that I would like to see in the future. I'm really happy with my wing already, but these could take the board to a different level.

    Regards

     

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  • LiamD
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-26

    When using the tap functionality on my wing and assigning it to the custom controls. The wing will do this perfectly to the first 7 buttons and start flashing. At the 8th button it will assign and work. But it doesn't flash. Can this be solved. It's not a hardware problem with me because the button itself works with color when i assign a mute to it.

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  • andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-19

    Wing Monitor outs. I’m using the wing in a studio and have my studio monitors connected to the Aux out 7&8 so I can keep the master fader on ‘0’ dB and use the monitor level control (top left) as a master room volume. Everything is ok accept I am unable to get a signal into my headphones - I need to be able to turn the monitor level off to kill the sound in the speakers and use the headphone level control for the cans, does anyone know how to be able to set this up please. Thanks ?

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    • andyp13
      Paul_Vannatto


      @andyp13 wrote:


      I need to be able to turn the monitor level off to kill the sound in the speakers and use the headphone level control for the cans, does anyone know how to be able to set this up please. 





      Press the View button, top left corner. In the Monitor section you can select headphones, speakers or both.


       

      • May 19, 2020
    • andyp13
      mfk1312

      The WING has two individual monitor outputs. One for Geadphone and one for studio monitors or similar. The default routing of the headphone monitor is to output Aux 7 and 8. you can either change this, so that the other monitor out is routed to these sockets or you can freely assign any other possible output too. And as Paul said you can configure the monitor setup using the View button in the monitor section.

      • May 19, 2020
    • andyp13
      Michaeld241

      I have same studi o set up,and mine's work awesome...how do I run a second set of monitore without piggybacking...in order to do quad monitors 


       

      • June 6, 2020
  • PatrikBouldin
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-25

    Hi, is there a published or otherwise known distance limit to connect the XR-18 to a Windows computer, via USB? I need 20' ideally, and is there a recommended cable for that distance or will an extender work?

    Thanks,

    Patrik

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    • PatrikBouldin
      LuukvanKuipers

      According to USB.org, USB operating specifications limit the maximum length of the cable to 5 meters for full speed devices and 3 meters for any low speed devices. 5 meters is around 16 feet 5 inches, and 3 meters is around 9 feet 10 inches. A X18 USB is low speed I guess.

      • May 25, 2020
    • PatrikBouldin
      PatrikBouldin

      Many thanks, I'm just wondering what max folks have experienced with PC to XR18 with the USB, annecdotally speaking. Especially now if you're saying it's a lower speed, that will help.

      • May 25, 2020
  • ChrisOjeda
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-25

    I am trying to update my firmware to 4.0 on my X32 Rack and the USB reader will not show any files when I plug my USB sticks into it. I have a FAT32 formatted stick with the firmware on it. HELP?!

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  • MikeDrennan
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-23

    Does anyone have an inside track on when we can expect MIDI and/or OSC implementation info from Behringer?  I used to perform a lot of external control over my X32 and I've really been missing that with the Wing. 

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    • MikeDrennan
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hey Mike @MikeDrennan ,


      They are working on it, but no ETA yet. Both Midi and OSC will be secondary protocols and the native protocol is very complex. It is going to be quite an undertaking requiring a lot of testing (already started).


       

      • May 23, 2020
    • MikeDrennan
      sergey_leps

      Please see my post above, which I called X-TOUCH Firmware Release 1.19 ..

      • May 23, 2020
    • MikeDrennan
      PatrickGMaillot

      Mike,


      As Paul mentioned


      If you are a programmer, you can already do (many) things using wapi [WING API], available at


      https://github.com/pmaillot/wapi/


      -Patrick


       

      • May 23, 2020
  • js415harmon
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-24

    Hello all, I am new here. I have been using the x32 for a few years. Love the board and software. Recently, we have begun to live stream so I split our board. I copied channels 1-16 to 17-32 so I could mix a separate feed for streaming. I wanted complete control from the gain down. Is it possible to adjust these separately? Can I implement the HA gain split without an external mixer? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. 

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    • js415harmon
      RexBeckett

      @js415harmon 


      Hello Jamie, welcome to the community.


       


      When you use an input on two or more channels, there can only be one setting for the preamp gain - shared by all the connected channels. If you enable the HA Gain Split option, the preamp gain must be set on the Setup -> Preamps tab but each channel has a separate +/- 18dB Trim control.


       


      In practice there is really only one correct setting for a preamp gain. If this is set correctly, the channel faders and send controls should be sufficient to control all mixes.

      • May 24, 2020
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