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  • mr-jolly
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-06-02

    One of the things I miss on the Wing that exists on the X32 is the input versus output meters on the effects units. The one I find most useful is on the vintage compressors:

     

    in-out.jpg

    I find it quite helpful to be able to see what is being done to the level of the signal.

    On the Wing I could see this feature, if it could be made to fit in the UI, being in multiple steps in the signal chain; EQ, Dynamics, Inserts, etc.

    Just a suggestion in case anyone on the Wing team is looking.

    Thanks,

    -mal

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  • andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-26

    Does the data wheel on the Wing do anything? or is there a problem with my desk?

     

     

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    • andyp13
      Paul_Vannatto


      @andyp13 wrote:


      Does the data wheel on the Wing do anything? or is there a problem with my desk?





      No problem with your desk. It currently has very little functionality, but will be used much more in the next firmware release.


       

      • May 25, 2020
    • andyp13
      mfk1312

      Hi Paul,


      Is there any offical estimation for the next release?


       


      regards

      • May 26, 2020
  • Herm-JanRiemer
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-06-01

    Hi guys!

    So with churches closed we had to record our band for recorded services. I recorded 32 channel outs on an pc and mixed them afterward in Ableton with waves plugins. This really boosted the quallity of our sound and we want to try using these plugins live aswell.
    Now to my question. Is it possible to run my channels from the X32 into my DAW and than back into the X32 with the processed sounds?

    And how would i be doing this?

    Thanks in advance!!
    Herm-Jan

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    • Herm-JanRiemer
      RexBeckett

      @Herm-JanRiemer 


      Yes you could do this but latency may be a problem for live use.


       


      Are you recording the preamp outputs (by routing the Card (USB) outputs from local or AES50 sources)? If so you could route the Card (USB returns) to the required channels on Routing -> Inputs. This would insert the DAW between the preamps and the channel inputs.

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      Herm-JanRiemer

      We are recording from AES50. We've got an X32 compact for FOH use, an X32 rack for inear use and a S32 to connect all the instruments.


      So route AES50 channels into DAW like i have been doing with the multitrack recording. How would i route them back into the X32 so i can still use these faders to controll volume?


       

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      CraigFowler

      Presuming you're going S32>Rack(Mons)>Compact(FOH)>DAW


      Routing on Rack remains the same.  On the Compact, Routing>Inputs, and set Inputs1-32 to Card 1-32.  This will get you your DAW-processed signals back into the FOH console for further processing\summing.


       


      It's a bit more complicated (though still doable) to get these DAW-processed signals to the monitor console as well, but I wouldn't recommend it due to the latency the DAW plugins will add to the signals.  Although the latency added might be ok for FOH, it's probably not going to be ok for monitors, especially IEMs.  Also, you're probably going to want to ensure that you send all signals to the FOH console, even if you're only running plugins on a handful, and make the DAW run some sort of automatic delay compensation across everything to ensure the signals all remain coherent when they're summed.

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      DickStraathof

      I should recommend Waves Multirack instead of your DAW. I guess Multirack will have less latency then a DAW has plus Multirack takes care automatically of the latency ( if you run their latency calculation once on all your outgoing channels).
      I have tried S32 -> X32 -> Multirack -> X32 -> P16 to IEM once, but that doesn't work because of the latency what is created, it was unduable to play.....
      But you take your mons direct from the X32 rack, so latency will occur only to the FOH sound and than it might work... trial and error is the best way to find out...
      Good luck


      DickS

      • May 31, 2020
    • Herm-JanRiemer
      Herm-JanRiemer

      Thanks! We don't run P16's though. Just normal outputs into an headphone amp with wired signal to musicians. (cheap but good) Also i thought that inears never needed the processed sounds anyway. Or is that just my assumption? I have never ran them processed anyways and musicians have never cared. 

      • June 1, 2020
  • MikeDee
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-26

     I have an X32, a dn32 card, a waves server one, a network switch, and waves multi-rack. I want to know if it is possible (routing wise) to have 16 channels of waves insert along with an insert on the l&r main outs.

    This is an X32 routing issue.. can I use the auxes and the channel inserts at the same time.

    How would I Route that?

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    • MikeDee
      hughesaudio

      Hi,


      Yes I think it is possible. I do not have a Soundgrid Server but set up a Native Version of what you are asking about. Routing should be the same. I wrote about it on my blog with pictures you can read here: https://survivethegig.com/x32-waves-channel-and-bus-inserts/


      If you already know how to route the channels and just need to add the Main Bus you do it through Aux In Remap. This requires using Card or User In 1-2, 1-4, or 1-6 though and your channels will have to be routed after it. There are a few steps to go through but I covered them in the blog post above.


      Hope this helps.

      • May 31, 2020
  • lhmirand
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-28

    Has Behringer published anything regarding their acronyms they use on XR18?    I understand most terms but I am lost when trying to figure out the setting means.

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    • lhmirand
      LuukvanKuipers

      I have no idea what you want to know, can you be more specific?

      • May 29, 2020
    • lhmirand
      CraigFowler

      Some acronyms\abbreviations\shortenings are to do with audio, others are to do with networking.  I don't think there is official documentation.  If you can provide a list of ones you're not sure about, I'm sure people will be happy to tell you what they mean.

      • May 29, 2020
    • lhmirand
      lhmirand

      It is mainly these in the "Setup"


      AFL


      PFL


      DIM


      DIN X-OSC


      USB/OSC

      • May 30, 2020
    • lhmirand
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Leroy @lhmirand ,


      Here is an explanation of these terms:


      AFL - After Fader Level, meaning the signal is affected by the fader (tapped off the signal path after the fader).


      PFL - Pre Fader Level, meaning the signal is not affected by the fader (tapped off the signal path before the fader).


      DIM - probably you are seeing this in the Monitor screen. Stands for diminish. When you press a solo button, you can diminish (or attenuate) the default signal by a certain amount (DIM gain)


      DIN-OSC - Allows OSC commands to be received from the DIN (midi) port on the back of the console. The X-Air's mother tongue is the OSC protocol.


      USB/OSC - Allows OSC commands to be received from the USB port of the XR18/MR18 (not applicable to the XR12, XR16, MR12).


       

      • May 30, 2020
  • LTisdale
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-05-28

    Until the HUB4 is available... My intent is to connect a Wing to a DL32 via AES50 A. And then to daisy chain the DP48s from port B on the DL32. 

    First... Will this work at all or will I have to run another data cable to the stage and configure and run them separately via the Wing's AES50 B output?

    And second... If so, will the DL32 just pass the same 48 AES50 A outputs it receives from the Wing along to the DP48s via its B port with a 1 to 1 mapping?

    Bummer that no names are passed yet... I hope that gets added to the Wing soon.

    Thanks...

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    • LTisdale
      Paul_Vannatto


      @LTisdale wrote:


      Until the HUB4 is available... My intent is to connect a Wing to a DL32 via AES50 A. And then to daisy chain the DP48s from port B on the DL32. 


      First... Will this work at all or will I have to run another data cable to the stage and configure and run them separately via the Wing's AES50 B output?





      Yes this will work.


       




      And second... If so, will the DL32 just pass the same 48 AES50 A outputs it receives from the Wing along to the DP48s via its B port with a 1 to 1 mapping?



      Yes that is correct. Whatever you send down the AES50 pipe from the Wing will be seen by both the DL32 (first 16 channels) and the DP48 (all 48 channels).


       




      Bummer that no names are passed yet... I hope that gets added to the Wing soon.



      The channel strip names are sent via AES50 and can be seen on both the Edit and Assign screens. If you are wanting the group names, those will need to be assigned using the names.csv file in the DP48 folder of the SD card, since the Wing does not have the DP48 interface yet that the X32 now has.


       

      • May 28, 2020
    • LTisdale
      GaryHiggins

      @Paul_Vannatto 


      Does that actually end up being true with the DL32 (I'm just asking)? A DL32 doesn't pass aes50 1-32 from its B port to another mixer (DP more a mixer than a stagebox), it passes its local inputs 1-32 and then aes50 33-48 gets passed straight through. I guess that could end up fine anyway if the DP48 uses the same 32 DL preamps as its ch sources. Even if it does I think I might choose another DP48 dedicated port and keep the aes50 ch assignments seperate.


       


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      • May 28, 2020
    • LTisdale
      Paul_Vannatto


      @GaryHiggins wrote:


      @Paul_Vannatto 


      Does that actually end up being true with the DL32 (I'm just asking)? A DL32 doesn't pass aes50 1-32 from its B port to another mixer (DP more a mixer than a stagebox), it passes its local inputs 1-32 and then aes50 33-48 gets passed straight through.





      Oops! You are correct Gary. Totally forgot that change with the DL32 (and S32). 


       


      @LTisdale , unfortunately Gary is correct. You will need to run a second AES50 to the DP48. If it was an S16, DL16, SD8 or SD16, you could daisy chain the stagebox and DP48 (done it). I don't own (or use) a DL32 or S32.


       

      • May 28, 2020
    • LTisdale
      GaryHiggins

      @LTisdale 


      Additionally if you use the DL (or any stagebox model) for its xlr outs, adat or p16 outs for things like traditional monitors or center fills, iq speakers, foh etc. The aes50 assignments that work well for those might not work out well for the DP48 anyway. Only to say a second port (the Wing does have 3) and second aes50 output assignment could end up being a good and necessary thing. Needing another, perhaps long, cable is a bit of a drawback.

      • May 28, 2020
    • LTisdale
      LTisdale

      Thanks for catching that Gary... And yes, my long term plan was always to eventually use AES50 B so that we can use a clean set of 48 sources for the DP48s that map in a 1 to 1 manner (and not risk someone deleting the outputs that are feeding the mains and subs by keeping the AES50 A outs unlocked in order to dual-purpose them...).  We just didn't pull a second (or third) cable when we pulled the first one and are going live pretty soon.


      Since that won't work... 


      Our installer purchased a p16D as the hub4 is not available yet. I was of the understanding that the DP48s are AES50 devices and are entirely incompatible with Ultranet. But I was watching a video yesterday and saw a P12 and P16 Ultranet mode in the setup menu for them (with no explanation...). Do they have a compatibility mode of some sort? And if so would this work with WING and DL32 sending 33-48 down AES50 A to the Ultranet port? POE this way? I really don't like this idea. (But then I also don't like the idea of a stage full of wall warts, extension cords, and data cables to temporarily chain them all together either ) . But if we can't get another cable or two pulled in time, is it even an option? Obviously only 16 sources this way (or functionally maybe only 12 with just 12 "select" buttons). 


      Thank you both. You are fantastic resources and though this is my first post here, I've read MANY of yours both here and elsewhere and am incredibly grateful.


       


       

      • May 29, 2020
  • mattprice500
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-28

    Is it possible/ Has anyone managed to control an X Air remotely over the internet. I don't want to 'live' mix just access for set up and support purposes.

     

    Thanks

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    • mattprice500
      AlIrwin

      I've been able to remotely take control of an Xair mixer using Teamviewer.

      • May 27, 2020
    • mattprice500
      LuukvanKuipers

      Just like any other service behind an internet router you can also port forward (UDP on port 10024 I suppose) the XAIR Edit port to the internal IP-Address of a XAIR console. At the your side you have to enter the remote external IP-Address where the XAIR console is behind to access and control.
      The portforwarding must be configured in the router of the person you want to support, so teamviewer will be a more practical solution

      • May 29, 2020
  • lenfinalt
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-05-26

    Hello,

    I wanted to submit a feature request or hear any thoughts about it. I wondered about that a long time ago: Why must the mute button be only on/off with no fade time? If you unmuted a channel half a second too late, the audience would definitely hear it because of the hard cut. But if channels would be able to unmute and mute with a fade time of for example 300ms or lower, the change would be a lot smoother. Maybe this could be useful in live situations.

    I would be happy to hear any thoughts on that and/or why this is such a bad idea

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    • lenfinalt
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Lennart @lenfinalt ,


      Welcome to the forum. Your idea is not a bad idea, but is currently not practical. The reason is that the current control protocol for the Wing is not time based, similar to the OSC protocol of the X32/M32 and X-Air/M-Air. That is why I provided the fade, cross-fade, etc. tidbit commands with Live Toolbox. This is being ported to the Wing platform. Because the Wing control protocol is very different, it will take some time before it is ready for release. If you are inclined and capable to program in C, Patrick @PatrickGMaillot has developed a C library for the Wing called Wapi


       

      • May 26, 2020
    • lenfinalt
      PatrickGMaillot

      Hello,


       


      As Paul mentioned there are some limitations due to the non-time based aspect of most functions available in WING and other consoles such as OSC based X32, M32, etc.


      With WING, a delay on functions such as MUTE would have to 1) take place within the console FW itself and this has an impact on the computing actions in the console and the Behringer programmers cannot think of all the exotic things some users may want to do at some point with using their console, or 2) take place using an external application IF there's a way to separate surface controls from the actual actions available in the console.


      For example you would declare that the MUTE button doesn't have its native audio processing function, but is simply generating a 'surface control' code that an application can catch and act upon. The app is then very simple to write.


      Behringer has not developed this for X32, leaving the X32 surface controls always linked to internal/audio processing. WING so far is in the same situation. I hope this situation changes in the future and a real, opened, surface control mode becomes available. But this may take time, if it happens one day.


      -Patrick

      • May 26, 2020
    • lenfinalt
      lenfinalt

      @Paul_Vannatto Thank you, I will have a look at Wapi. This looks very interesting to me!


      @PatrickGMaillot Okay, this makes sense to me. Then the possibility to separate the control surface from the internal processing or hook on specific actions would be great. Maybe there will be an option for people who want to tweak their console a bit in the future.


      I would like to thank both of you for the detailed answers! Have a great evening.

      • May 26, 2020
  • LQS
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-05-27

    I work at a theatre which has an X32 running v2.10.    Can I upgrade directly to v4.02, or do I have to upgrade to an interim version (say v3.x) before I can jump to v4.x?   Does v4 support all serial numbers, or only a certain range?  I was not able to find a complete set of release notes listing all the versions (list of improvements, feature adds, and bug fixes), does one exist and I just didn't look int eh correct place?    Similarly, I've not been able to find older firmware versions on the website, are they somewhere where I couldn't find them?  I'd like to have a copy of 2.10 just in case something goes awry during the update process and I would need to revert to it.   Similarly, all the questions I've asked are things I've encountered in doing upgrades with other types of devices

     

    Thanks!

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    • LQS
      CraigFowler

      Yes, you can install v4.02 straight up, however it's recommended that you take note of the console's network settings, and backup any scenes\shows\library presets first.


       


      Also, you may also need to upgrade the firmware on any digital stageboxes you're using too.


       


      Finally, double check your remote apps.  A newer console firmware will probably require a new version of the remote control apps.  Some newer versions of the control apps won't work on older hardware that the previous versions did, so you might need to update your remote control hardware.


       


      I don't think there's a full list of release changes for all firmwares in one document, just the most recent one.  To get the full list you'd probably have amalgamate the contents of the release notes of the last v1.x release before v2 was released, the last v2.x release before v3 was released, and the last v3.x release before v4.x was released.


       


      I recommend contacting @Paul_Vannatto re older fw versions, he's probably got them all backed up.


       


      PS, Paul, if such a list exists of the full change list all the way from v1.0>4.02 I'd be interested in a copy (or links to the individual firmwares so with release notes so I can compile a list myself.)  I'd find it interesting to see how many new features have been added (for free) to a console over its 7 year or so lifespan with no significant hardware changes.

      • May 27, 2020
    • LQS
      Paul_Vannatto

      Trying again! I just posted a response and it disappeared. It isn't even in the spam folder. 


       


      Hi Larry @LQS ,


      Welcome to the forum. As Craig @CraigFowler mentioned you can upgrade from 2.10 to 4.02, making sure you have backed up everything and taken note of all settings in the Setup screens (except for the preamps screen). 


       


      I do indeed have firmware 2.10. Unfortunately it won't allow it to be attached (this time it gave an error message). So here is a link to the update on my Google drive.


       


      Craig, I'll see if I can put together a list of all firmware update points, but may take awhile.


       

      • May 27, 2020
    • LQS
      DickStraathof

      Hi Paul,
      I have interrest in the list of firmware update points as well, please!



      @LQS Larry, I have never updated my two S16 while I always have followed up with every update that came out for the X32/X32rack. So the S16 run still at their originally firmware when I purchased them back in 2013 and work fine till today.


      DickS

      • May 27, 2020
    • LQS
      GaryHiggins

      @Paul_Vannatto 


      I posted a list of all the firmware updates and what was in each here in the forum a few years ago, I am looking for it as i usually save things like that but where I did...yikes.. If this were the old forum i could find it. I found the 2.0-2.16 part so far...I know the rest is here somewhere.


       


      2.16 (2016-02-02)


      improvements:


      - fixed DIN midi remote control problem introduced in 2.15


       


      2.15 (2015-11-06)


      improvements:


      - channel group assignments synced when fader link option is reselected


      - eq gain center led only lights up when gain is exactly 0 dB


      - hard mute state shown on meter pages (dark red fader knob)


      - eq band reset bug fixed


      - screen draw routines significantly accelerated


      - ducker attack and release times fixed (were swapped since 2.10)


       


      2.14 (2015-07-16)


      improvements:


      - X-USB and DN32-USB were reporting wrong sample rate after changing sample rate without reboot


       


      2.13 (2015-07-06)


      improvements:


      - fixed an issue where iQ speaker settings were not recalled correctly when linked


      - iQ setup now also accessible via layer buttons


      - fixed an issue where inserts were not activated when usb was very busy during startup


      - correct preamp indication on DL152..DL155, output SRC disabled on DL155


      - fixed an issue where midi messages were duplicated when assigned to more than one assignable


      button/encoder simultaneously


       


      2.12 (2015-06-01)


      improvements:


      - HUI level meters and LCD fixed


      - DHCP menu on X32CORE fixed


      - fixed rare issue where aes50 slave mode won't sync


      - iQ speaker settings moved to /outputs/p16 path


      new features:


      - iQ speaker link function


       


      2.11 (2015-04-09)


      improvements:


      - load show file in X32CORE fixed (snippet offset)


      - fader motor issues on M32/M32R (minimum position) fixed


      - exclude hidden and system files from usb file list


      - correct indication of 0 dB fader position


      - scene GO and UNDO leds fixed


      - DHCP can be selected on X32CORE


      - bus AFL solo correctly uses pan when bus is routed to LR


      new features:


      - support for M32C, S32, DL32, DL231


       


      2.10 (2014-11-20)


      improvements:


      - screen flicker when switching between pages with overlay graphics removed


      - improved clock stability in Dante slave mode


      new features:


      - rta detector selection (rms/peak), peak hold, and adjustable decay time


      - gate section: expander with adjustable range


      - compressor section: compressor/expander with auto mode


       


      2.09 (2014-10-23)


      improvements:


      - fixed issue where usb drives were not recognized when connected during power-on


      - setup/global and setup/config screens rearranged


      - sample rate can now be changed without reboot


      - issue with mute menu on scenes/home screen fixed


      - some redraw issues related to mute menu fixed


      new features:


      - safe shutdown (incl. usb recorder shutdown), console reboot, firmware update, factory reset added to setup


      - selectable 12h (am/pm) and 24h clock mode


      - new options: hard mute groups, dcas as mute groups, invert mute leds (for broadcast use)


      - DHCP


       


      2.08 (2014-09-12)


      improvements:


      - Xedit bug fixed when changing fx type


      - xlr out routing added to routing snippet


      - p16 and aes/ebu routing added to out patch snippet


      - jitter when syncing to adat/word clock/madi reduced


      - sporadic noise when switching between special combinations of fx types removed


      - sporadic click at end of usb playback removed


      - sporadic reboot when using too complex osc subscriptions (old X32-mix on iPad 1) fixed


      - sporadic loss of meter information (osc clients) fixed; osc server version 2.05


      new features:


      - support for DN32-MADI, DN32-DANTE, DN32-ADAT


      - support for DL15X and DL25X stage box series


      - iQ control via stage box P16 port (requires fw >= 2.0 on S16/DL16)


       


      2.07 (2014-06-26)


      improvements:


      new features:


      - support for DL16


      - M32 support


       


      2.06 (2014-06-16)


      improvements:


      - cue delete fixed


      - dante card playback gain fixed


      - 'use rta source' for geq fixed


       


      2.05 (2014-05-27)


      improvements:


      - fixed incorrect power-on channel mute state when assigned to mute groups


      - fixed issues with right fader bank when in geq on faders or remote mode


      - fixed dyn key meter on M/C channel


      - osc server updates to support fast sync mode w/ X32Edit


      - tap function improved


      new features:


       


      2.04 (2014-04-23)


      improvements:


      - minor graphics and parameter name fixes


      new features:


       


      2.03 (2014-04-11)


      improvements:


      - acceleration for user assignable rotaries on assign home page


      - screen flicker and delay fixed when loading cues/scenes/snippets


      - scene management improvements and fixes


      - remote encoders on assign home page now correctly send out midi messages


      - osc server enhancements for X32edit 2.x


      new features:


      - mix control on compressors (parallel compression option)


       


      2.02 (2014-03-11)


      improvements:


      - aux/fxrtn sends to subgroup fixed


      - output routing tap selector fixed


      - dry switch on dimensional chorus


      - to end all these discussions: hold sends on fader button (> 1s) to stop blinking


      - stereo delay mono feed diagram corrected


      - preamp remote control issue with linked channels fixed


      - X32CORE scene recall and show import fixed


      - snippets fixed (problem with 1st data line)


      - usb recorder assign key 'PREV' fixed


      - GO button led fixed


      new features:


      - assignable controls can be accessed on X32RACK by pressing MUTEGRP & UTILITY simultaneously


      - midi control of mute groups (CC #80..85 on channel 2 [B1 50 xx .. B1 55 xx])


      - midi snippet recall ([C1 xx])


      - midi cue recall ([C2 xx] 0..127, [C3 xx] 128..255, [C4 xx] 256..383, [C5 xx] 384..499)


      - cue and snippet recall on assignable buttons (including name display on small lcds and assign home screen)


      - M/C can be used as effect send bus (FX 1..4)


      - V1.x scene/show/library conversion


       


      2.01 (2014-01-23)


      improvements:


      - dual enhancer fixed


      - file version check (show/libs)


       


      2.00 (2014-01-22)


      improvements:


      - new eq encoder assignment (main lcd)


      - channel icon/name visible on fx inserts (dual mono only)


      - console init bus send 1-8 default now post eq instead of pre fader


      - faders disabled when locked and remote controlled


      - comp threshold range reduced to -60..0 dBFS


      - sends on fader button flashing


      - relaxed sends on fader function (automatically deactivated only by pressing DCA button)


      - improved indication of sends on fader signal flow on small displays


      - stagebox lock moved to setup/preamp page


      - increased parameter resolution on rackamp


      - increased sensitivity on deesser


      - gain reduction meter on precision limiter


      new features:


      - eq on fx return channels


      - expander mode (1:2, 1:3, 1:4) in gate section


      - 100 band rta/spectrograph (on meter page and as overlay on eq and geq screens)


      - user assign rotaries available on assign home page (for producer/compact)


      - console lock on HOME button (2.5s), doubles as safe shutdown


      - individual eq band reset (w/ undo)


      - dca level meters (max post fader level of assigned channels)


      - additional pre gate tap for bus sends


      - additional post gate tap for outputs


      - output routing w/ optional muting (e.g. mute P16 feeds w/ channel mutes)


      - smart handling of send levels when changing bus mode


      - gate / comp key signal level indication


      - additional lcd color modes (inverted display)


      - xlr outputs added to routing matrix (e.g. foh passthru)


      - sends on fader for mono/center bus and matrices (bidirectional)


      - fader extend mode (input channels on bus faders); press two bank select buttons simultaneously (Producer and Compact only)


      - gain split mode for foh/mon; ha gains can only be set on setup/preamp page, channels have trim only


      - gain remote option; allows console gains to be remote controlled by another console (e.g. use X32RACK as stagebox)


      - when pushing the effects button or selecting a channel while on any fx page, the corresponding fx and layer is


      automatically selected when used as insert on selected channel or as send effect on selected bus


      - jump to page user function optionally includes fx layer


      - midi control of channel level, mute, and pan


      - freeze function on vintage room


      - lots of new effects


      - new scene management (cues/scenes/snippets)


      - faster boot time and smaller update file size


       


      X32 Firmware Update
      Version 2.16 (19 February 2016)


      The X32 Firmware Update V 2.16 features performance enhancements to the award-winning X32 operating system. The Version 2.16 rmware improves the main display UI refresh and xes some smaller glitches.


      BEHRINGER is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable operating system, so that you always experience the best possible performance from your X32. Check out behringer.com for updates regularly.


      Note: It is recommended that you backup all data (export Show and Libraries to USB) before updating, as a rmware upgrade may erase data currently stored on your X32. Please be aware that rmware 2.16 should be used with X32-Edit 2.5 on PC / Mac / Linux computers in wired networks, and with X32-Mix 2.2 or higher on Apple iPads (min. iOS 7) for wireless networking.


      Enhancements:


       



      • GUI drawing routines signi cantly accelerated

      • Fixed DIN midi remote control problem

      • Channel group assignments synced when fader link option is reselected

      • EQ gain center led only lights up when gain is exactly 0 dB

      • Indication of hard mute state, shown on meter pages with a dark red fader knob

      • EQ band reset bug xed

      • Ducker attack and release times xed (were swapped since 2.10)

      • Routing page tab “p16 out ” renamed to “ultranet ”, see belowu

      • May 27, 2020
    • LQS
      GaryHiggins

      @DickStraathof @CraigFowler @Paul_Vannatto 


      Found 1.01-3.09


      1.01-1.15


      1.15 (2013-07-09)


      New Features: • TRS Aux Input signals can now be transmitted via Card Out, AES50A Out and AES50B Out directly, without the need for assigning them to the DSP processing blocks first. The additional option is "AuxIn 1-6 / TB" carrying the physical auxiliary input signals 1-6 and the talkback signals A and B. • Aux Input Routing improved > The Aux Inputs signals can now be selected in blocks of 2, 4 or 6 Inputs, choosing from these options:


      fw 1.14 fw 1.15 AUX IN 1-4 AUX INPUTS LOCAL IN 1-4 LOCAL IN 1-2 AES50A 1-4 LOCAL IN 1-4 AES50B 1-4 LOCAL IN 1-6 CARD 1-4 AES50A 1-2 AES50A 1-4 AES50A 1-6 AES50B 1-2 AES50B 1-4 AES50B 1-6 CARD 1-2 CARD 1-4 CARD 1-6


      Note: The (remaining) Aux Input channels will be fed from the physical Aux Inputs 1-6 if not specified otherwise.


      Improvements: • X32 RACK now can directly access channel name/icon editing by holding the SELECT encoder down, while pressing the Utility button. • X32 CORE can be initialized by holding the SELECT encoder depressed while switching on • New 'Safe Shutdown' function for X32 CORE, by holding the USB button depressed while in SETUP menu • New console server routines improving USB Recorder performance • Server improved for X32-Edit 1.2 MCU remote control functions • 'Select follows Solo' function only selects a channel when solo is activated, not when deactivated • channel icon and name now copied when activating a channel link


      1.14 (2013-06-12) New Features: • Channel Fader Auto Select option – allows selecting channels by simply touching the channel fader • New User Assignable Control Features: - fader of the selected channel can be controlled by a user-assignable encoder - tape (USB recorder) control can be assigned to user-assignable buttons • New X-USB expansion card for 32 x32 channel I/O via USB 2.0 supported


      Improvements: • Large indication of selected channel number on main LCD when no channel icon is set • EQ section lo-cut/hi-cut LEDs now also indicate crossover filter types • Headamp settings are copied when linking channels (with global link preference 'Delay+HA' on) • S16 stage box gains can be pre-set, even when no stage box is connected (setup/preamps page) • Extended range for digital trim now +/-18 dB



      1.13 (2013-02-18) Improvements: • New OSC server functions (osc-server V0.90) • Mackie Control Universal support improved (i.e. for Cakewalk SONAR) • New user assignable controls for faders, dca and mutegroups • Insert-'source' text for fx 1..4 indicating where the effect is inserted • Corrected scene parameter safes for Preamp and Delay • Improved redraw function for scene load • Corrected indication of channel send fader position on home screen • Firmware required for XControl remote control software version 1.01 and later



      1.12 (2013-01-17) Improvements: • Encoder acceleration improved • Channel AFL Solo now always post insert • Sends On Fader related freeze fixed


      New Features: • Full support for all new X32 models


      1.10 (2012-11-29) Improvements: • Bus AFL solo now always post insert • Talkback gain reduced (previous default setting was too high) • Handling of fader move events while switching fader assignment fixed • Sporadic noise when changing insert position removed • User assignable buttons now correctly return to previous banks when used for sends on faders


      New Features: • Direct control of all mic preamps independent from their channel assignment to allow inline recording mode and live card inserts: - route local or AES50 inputs to card, - route card returns to console input channels - set preamp gain (2.5 dB steps) on new preamp setup page, - adjust digital trim +/-12 dB on console 'tape return' channels • 2 new Dual-band DeEsser Effects (dual-mono, stereo) with M/S processing option (can be used as insert or side-chain processes) • The user assignable buttons can now be (re-)assigned to JUMP function regardless of previous function (by holding one of the SET buttons) • Matrix buses have some new features that enable them to be used in simple speaker processing applications: - phase inverter switchable in config/preamp section - signal tap (pre/post EQ, pre/post fader) from bus sends to matrix can be selected now - EQ bands LOW and HIGH now can be switched to crossover filter types (butterworth, bessel, linkwitzriley up to 24dB/oct). Note: The crossover filter types use up the intermediate bands LOW2 and HIGH2 respectively when activated.


      New features with GEQ-On-Fader function (reset all, jump in blocks of 8) • On request for theatre productions-the scene parameter safes for mute and fader/pan in input and bus channels, can now be set independently • The meter screens for input channels, mix buses and aux/FX now show the channel's mute status


      Notes: • Due to additional scenes parameters (matrix bus options: signal tap, x-over filter in EQ and phase reverse) all scenes that use matrix buses should be checked, because previously created scenes do not contain these additional parameters yet. In order to make old scenes consistent with Firmware 1.10 it is recommended to initialize the console, then load and immediately save back each scene.


       


      1.09 (2012-09-27) Improvements: • When 'safe main level' and 'M/C depends on Main L/R' are activated, M/C level is no longer set to -8 on powerup • User defined buttons now correctly return to previous page when used as channel select • 'Pre' leds now correctly work when auxes or fx returns are selected • Player now plays non-canonical wave files with no artifacts at the end • Recorder automatically restarts with new file when size limit (2GB) is exceeded • DCA solo now also includes channels that are not routed to main L/R (e.g. to group buses) • Erratic behaviour of ch 1 input delay and Matrix 6 insert fixedv


      New Features: • Current settings (i.e. single scene) can now directly be saved (to the usb drive) • FX utilities include algorithm (FX type) selection • OSC server updated to 0.7 (to support XiControl update) • Signal flow diagrams dynamically updated when changing dyn/insert position



      1.08 (2012-08-31) Improvements: • Ambience FX redraw issue fixed • USB Player/Recorder no longer drops last block • Freeze when using channel library after assigning ‘- Param 64 -’ to any assignable controller fixed • Pre/Post indication on channel home screen updated


      New Features: • Sends On Fader on a specific channel or bus can be assigned to user assignable buttons within the ASSIGN section • Scenes can be assigned to user assignable buttons in the ASSIGN section • Holding down a select button and pressing UTILITY now directly accesses the naming screen • Solo option ‘Dim PFL’ allows to apply DIM to PFL sources (to align levels when using as monitor console)



      1.07 (2012-08-22) Improvements: • Sporadic freeze when using presets/scenes with long names (> 15 characters) fixed



      1.06 (2012-08-21) Improvements: • Freeze when using library FX load with confirmation disabled fixed • Thump noise when using master GEQ and loading tremolo/pan into any other FX slot removed • Main bus afl solo fixed • Non-ASCII characters in filenames (on USB thumb drive) are now ignored so that these files can be selected for play (though it is recommended to use ascii characters only) • After song has been played (in single mode), player returns to stop mode • High EQ in tube stage FX fixed • Dyn key source parameter now correctly disabled on matrix and main channels


       


      1.05 (2012-08-06) Improvements: • Channel link fixed when used with remote control


      New Features: • DAW remote control level meter support


      1.04 (2012-07-30) Improvements: • Pre/Post send indication on home page fixed (PRE was indicated with the wrong icon) • Send section update issues fixed on home page when using eth remote control • Channel sends not fully updated when changing send type from/to GROUP • Initialize console now sets pans on AUX7/8 to hard left/right • OSC server crashed when path not found – fixed


      New Features: • Undo button also available on Scenes/Home screen • Hold UTILITY button to initialize console during boot • OSC server updated to 0.60 (to support pc remote release)



      1.03 (2012-07-11) Improvements: • Rotary effect bug fixed • Media full now correctly recognized during file write


      New Features: • User section now supports midi events • User section now supports DAW remote control functions • MIDI over aes50 for S16 (user section midi and scene midi) • Selected channel and fader clip LEDs indicate (analog) input clip even with negative trim values


       


      1.02 (2012-06-19) Improvements: • Unit now correctly syncs on AES50 port B @ 44K1 on startup • Correct enumeration of remote controllable preamps (i.e. S16 port B) • Sporadic sync problem (AES50 slave clock phase) on startup fixed • Scan rate of small lcds changed to avoid flickering


      New Features: • New lock screen • Console init sets gate threshold to -80dBFS and range to 60dB now



      1.01 (2012-06-01) Improvements: • Increased compatibility with slow starting thumb drives


       


      2.0-2.16



      2.16 (2016-02-02)
      improvements:
      - fixed DIN midi remote control problem introduced in 2.15


      2.15 (2015-11-06)
      improvements:
      - channel group assignments synced when fader link option is reselected
      - eq gain center led only lights up when gain is exactly 0 dB
      - hard mute state shown on meter pages (dark red fader knob)
      - eq band reset bug fixed
      - screen draw routines significantly accelerated
      - ducker attack and release times fixed (were swapped since 2.10)
      2.14 (2015-07-16)
      improvements:
      - X-USB and DN32-USB were reporting wrong sample rate after changing sample rate without reboot
      2.13 (2015-07-06)
      improvements:
      - fixed an issue where iQ speaker settings were not recalled correctly when linked
      - iQ setup now also accessible via layer buttons
      - fixed an issue where inserts were not activated when usb was very busy during startup
      - correct preamp indication on DL152..DL155, output SRC disabled on DL155
      - fixed an issue where midi messages were duplicated when assigned to more than one assignable
      button/encoder simultaneously
      2.12 (2015-06-01)
      improvements:
      - HUI level meters and LCD fixed
      - DHCP menu on X32CORE fixed
      - fixed rare issue where aes50 slave mode won't sync
      - iQ speaker settings moved to /outputs/p16 path
      new features:
      - iQ speaker link function
      2.11 (2015-04-09)
      improvements:
      - load show file in X32CORE fixed (snippet offset)
      - fader motor issues on M32/M32R (minimum position) fixed
      - exclude hidden and system files from usb file list
      - correct indication of 0 dB fader position
      - scene GO and UNDO leds fixed
      - DHCP can be selected on X32CORE
      - bus AFL solo correctly uses pan when bus is routed to LR
      new features:
      - support for M32C, S32, DL32, DL231
      2.10 (2014-11-20)
      improvements:
      - screen flicker when switching between pages with overlay graphics removed
      - improved clock stability in Dante slave mode
      new features:
      - rta detector selection (rms/peak), peak hold, and adjustable decay time
      - gate section: expander with adjustable range
      - compressor section: compressor/expander with auto mode
      2.09 (2014-10-23)
      improvements:
      - fixed issue where usb drives were not recognized when connected during power-on
      - setup/global and setup/config screens rearranged
      - sample rate can now be changed without reboot
      - issue with mute menu on scenes/home screen fixed
      - some redraw issues related to mute menu fixed
      new features:
      - safe shutdown (incl. usb recorder shutdown), console reboot, firmware update, factory reset added to setup
      - selectable 12h (am/pm) and 24h clock mode
      - new options: hard mute groups, dcas as mute groups, invert mute leds (for broadcast use)
      - DHCP
      2.08 (2014-09-12)
      improvements:
      - Xedit bug fixed when changing fx type
      - xlr out routing added to routing snippet
      - p16 and aes/ebu routing added to out patch snippet
      - jitter when syncing to adat/word clock/madi reduced
      - sporadic noise when switching between special combinations of fx types removed
      - sporadic click at end of usb playback removed
      - sporadic reboot when using too complex osc subscriptions (old X32-mix on iPad 1) fixed
      - sporadic loss of meter information (osc clients) fixed; osc server version 2.05
      new features:
      - support for DN32-MADI, DN32-DANTE, DN32-ADAT
      - support for DL15X and DL25X stage box series
      - iQ control via stage box P16 port (requires fw >= 2.0 on S16/DL16)
      2.07 (2014-06-26)
      improvements:
      new features:
      - support for DL16
      - M32 support
      2.06 (2014-06-16)
      improvements:
      - cue delete fixed
      - dante card playback gain fixed
      - 'use rta source' for geq fixed
      2.05 (2014-05-27)
      improvements:
      - fixed incorrect power-on channel mute state when assigned to mute groups
      - fixed issues with right fader bank when in geq on faders or remote mode
      - fixed dyn key meter on M/C channel
      - osc server updates to support fast sync mode w/ X32Edit
      - tap function improved
      new features:
      2.04 (2014-04-23)
      improvements:
      - minor graphics and parameter name fixes
      new features:
      2.03 (2014-04-11)
      improvements:
      - acceleration for user assignable rotaries on assign home page
      - screen flicker and delay fixed when loading cues/scenes/snippets
      - scene management improvements and fixes
      - remote encoders on assign home page now correctly send out midi messages
      - osc server enhancements for X32edit 2.x
      new features:
      - mix control on compressors (parallel compression option)
      2.02 (2014-03-11)
      improvements:
      - aux/fxrtn sends to subgroup fixed
      - output routing tap selector fixed
      - dry switch on dimensional chorus
      - to end all these discussions: hold sends on fader button (> 1s) to stop blinking
      - stereo delay mono feed diagram corrected
      - preamp remote control issue with linked channels fixed
      - X32CORE scene recall and show import fixed
      - snippets fixed (problem with 1st data line)
      - usb recorder assign key 'PREV' fixed
      - GO button led fixed
      new features:
      - assignable controls can be accessed on X32RACK by pressing MUTEGRP & UTILITY simultaneously
      - midi control of mute groups (CC #80..85 on channel 2 [B1 50 xx .. B1 55 xx])
      - midi snippet recall ([C1 xx])
      - midi cue recall ([C2 xx] 0..127, [C3 xx] 128..255, [C4 xx] 256..383, [C5 xx] 384..499)
      - cue and snippet recall on assignable buttons (including name display on small lcds and assign home screen)
      - M/C can be used as effect send bus (FX 1..4)
      - V1.x scene/show/library conversion
      2.01 (2014-01-23)
      improvements:
      - dual enhancer fixed
      - file version check (show/libs)
      2.00 (2014-01-22)
      improvements:
      - new eq encoder assignment (main lcd)
      - channel icon/name visible on fx inserts (dual mono only)
      - console init bus send 1-8 default now post eq instead of pre fader
      - faders disabled when locked and remote controlled
      - comp threshold range reduced to -60..0 dBFS
      - sends on fader button flashing
      - relaxed sends on fader function (automatically deactivated only by pressing DCA button)
      - improved indication of sends on fader signal flow on small displays
      - stagebox lock moved to setup/preamp page
      - increased parameter resolution on rackamp
      - increased sensitivity on deesser
      - gain reduction meter on precision limiter
      new features:
      - eq on fx return channels
      - expander mode (1:2, 1:3, 1:4) in gate section
      - 100 band rta/spectrograph (on meter page and as overlay on eq and geq screens)
      - user assign rotaries available on assign home page (for producer/compact)
      - console lock on HOME button (2.5s), doubles as safe shutdown
      - individual eq band reset (w/ undo)
      - dca level meters (max post fader level of assigned channels)
      - additional pre gate tap for bus sends
      - additional post gate tap for outputs
      - output routing w/ optional muting (e.g. mute P16 feeds w/ channel mutes)
      - smart handling of send levels when changing bus mode
      - gate / comp key signal level indication
      - additional lcd color modes (inverted display)
      - xlr outputs added to routing matrix (e.g. foh passthru)
      - sends on fader for mono/center bus and matrices (bidirectional)
      - fader extend mode (input channels on bus faders); press two bank select buttons simultaneously (Producer and Compact only)
      - gain split mode for foh/mon; ha gains can only be set on setup/preamp page, channels have trim only
      - gain remote option; allows console gains to be remote controlled by another console (e.g. use X32RACK as stagebox)
      - when pushing the effects button or selecting a channel while on any fx page, the corresponding fx and layer is
      automatically selected when used as insert on selected channel or as send effect on selected bus
      - jump to page user function optionally includes fx layer
      - midi control of channel level, mute, and pan
      - freeze function on vintage room
      - lots of new effects
      - new scene management (cues/scenes/snippets)
      - faster boot time and smaller update file size


      3.0-3.09



      3.09 (2018-02-07):
      improvements:
      - fixed auto mute when using very specific eq settings



      3.08 (2017-11-09):
      improvements:
      - Midas IO boxes (DL15x, DL25x) now correctly detected when multiple remote clients are connected
      - fader accuracy in send on fader mode improved
      - performance of automix function improved (with very low input signals)
      - ADAT and MADI card sync light flicker fixed
      - support for X-WSG and X-LIVE implemented
      - fader board firmware update disabled (replaced by standalone updater)
      3.07 (2016-09-30):
      improvements:
      - x-touch channel color and name update problem corrected
      - x-touch assigning mute groups fixed
      - labels on snippet page corrected (console scope)
      - fader tolerance issue with some M series consoles fixed
      3.04 (2016-08-24):
      improvements:
      - PREV cue button function fixed
      - gate and dyn module gain graphs always show active gain curve (in grey when module is not active)
      - automix gain reduction meter scaling corrected


      3.00 (2016-08-04):
      improvements:
      - indication of available outputs on routing page corrected for models with 8 outs
      - fixed issue with send mutes when dca bank was selected in sends on fader mode
      - compatibility with new editor version
      - rearranged screen encoders on sends page for consistency
      - show/snippet name redraw issue fixed
      - monitor metering point changed (to indicate output clipping)
      - channel name/icon no longer copied (odd->even) when link is activated
      - -action/clearsolo now also deactivates key solo
      new features:
      - 8 channel (1..8) automixing with two groups
      - phase invert on outputs, aux, aes/ebu, P16
      - xover filter types on main and mono/center
      - x-touch remote control (MIDI/Ethernet)

      • May 27, 2020
  • Winndizzle
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-27

    I am running this configuration

    X32 as FOH to 2 S16.

    Leaving the FOH X32 via AES50A to the S16 into the AES50A side of one out the B and into the second AES50A side.

    I want to come out of the AES50B side of the FOH console into the A side of a X32 rack but would like to know how to configure the routing on the X32 FOH to send those signals coming from the S16s to the X32 rack mount for broadcast and live stream.

    I saw the rought set up in this video but no routing guidelines are there to go from the X32 FOH to a broadcast X32.  I would be going from the AES50B oon the FOH board to the AES50A of the broadcast X32

    https://youtu.be/oTk8nJcILwE

     

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    • Winndizzle
      CraigFowler

      On the FOH console:


      Routing>AES50B


      Outputs 1-32: AES50A 1-32


      ^This sets the signals to be output at the FOH's B socket to be whatever is incoming on the FOH's A socket (the signals from the S16s.)


       


      Then on the Broadcast X32Rack:


      Routing>Inputs


      Input1-32: AES50A 1-32


      ^This sets the broadcast console to get input signals from whatever is connected to its AES50A socket: (the FOH console, which is outputting signals from the S16s.)


       


      You'll need to ensure both consoles are set at the same sample rate, and set the broadcast console to slave its clock off the FOH console connected to its AES50A socket (Setup>Global, Synchronization:AES50A.)

      • May 27, 2020
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