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  • Greyhound10
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-20

    Hi everyone. I come from the world of location audio for TV/Film so mixing with this big a digital desk is a whole new animal to me. I am curious  how I can send a single channel strip to multiple mix buses. Here is my scenario. Corporate webcast w/ Multiple presenters, call-ins, music and VOG mic. Feeding audio from our location to multiple sites. 

    1) Phone participants can call in. I do a mix minus so i don't send it back out but send it to small stage monitors on set so hosts can hear them.

    2) I have to send music and VOG out to the main mix as well as the stage monitors. So my question is can I send individual channel strips to multiple mix buses at the same time? Ss that main show get participants, VOG and Music while phone, music and VOG get sent to floor speakers. Any advice on proper set up would be appreciated. Thanks

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    • Greyhound10
      GaryHiggins

      @Greyhound10 


      Hello, yes you can send any or all ch strips (inputs) to multiple buses at the same time. Generally the last 4 of the 16 mixbuses are used for fx sends, but that still leaves 12 different buses you can use and send where you please with whatever ch's you want to send.

      • May 20, 2020
    • Greyhound10
      KevinMaxwell

      Yes you can. But which mixer are you using this forum covers a lot of them.

      • May 20, 2020
    • Greyhound10
      Greyhound10

      I am using the X32.


       

      • May 20, 2020
  • AnthonieHunter
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-20

    On my X32 Rack I never cared much for the headphone output, but now I need it. I need to monitor several of the monitor outputs. However I don't know how to select the source. Monitor Source gives me this options:
    - Off
    - LR Bus
    - LR + M/C
    - LR PFL
    - LR AFL
    - Aux 5/6
    - Aux 7/8
    How can I hear the output of my mixbusses in my headphones?
    Appreciate any help!

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    • AnthonieHunter
      CraigFowler

      Those settings are for what appears at the monitor sockets when you haven't got anything soloed.  To hear your monitor mixes, solo them.

      • May 20, 2020
  • nelsonlugo0607
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-20

    I am using an x32 compact for FOH Mix. I'm looking to purchase the Producer for a out of house mix via live stream. I was told I could connect the Producer to the X32 compact. However, I was also told I would not be able to seperate the gain. Is that true? If so, what should I do? Thanks so much!    

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    • nelsonlugo0607
      DaveMorrison

      @nelsonlugo0607 


      You can connect them share the preamps between consoles (and send busses back and forth). The pre-amp can only be set to one value at a time. Either console can control it but only one at a time. The other console can use digital trim. I don't think it's a big deal. I set the gain at the begining of a show (leaving headrrom for "inspired" performances. If FOH changes the preamp levels in the middle of the show, the monitor mixes will likely be ruined.

      • May 20, 2020
  • andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-19

    Wing Monitor outs. I’m using the wing in a studio and have my studio monitors connected to the Aux out 7&8 so I can keep the master fader on ‘0’ dB and use the monitor level control (top left) as a master room volume. Everything is ok accept I am unable to get a signal into my headphones - I need to be able to turn the monitor level off to kill the sound in the speakers and use the headphone level control for the cans, does anyone know how to be able to set this up please. Thanks ?

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    • andyp13
      Paul_Vannatto


      @andyp13 wrote:


      I need to be able to turn the monitor level off to kill the sound in the speakers and use the headphone level control for the cans, does anyone know how to be able to set this up please. 





      Press the View button, top left corner. In the Monitor section you can select headphones, speakers or both.


       

      • May 19, 2020
    • andyp13
      mfk1312

      The WING has two individual monitor outputs. One for Geadphone and one for studio monitors or similar. The default routing of the headphone monitor is to output Aux 7 and 8. you can either change this, so that the other monitor out is routed to these sockets or you can freely assign any other possible output too. And as Paul said you can configure the monitor setup using the View button in the monitor section.

      • May 19, 2020
    • andyp13
      Michaeld241

      I have same studi o set up,and mine's work awesome...how do I run a second set of monitore without piggybacking...in order to do quad monitors 


       

      • June 6, 2020
  • andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-05-19

    Wing Monitor outs.
    I’m using the wing in a studio and have my studio monitors connected to the Aux out 7&8 so I can keep the master fader on ‘0’ dB and use the monitor level control (top left) as a master room volume. Everything is ok accept I am unable to get a signal into my headphones - I need to be able to turn the monitor level off to kill the sound in the speakers and use the headphone level control for the cans, does anyone know how to be able to set this up please. Thanks ?

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    • andyp13
      rickschwar

      I have a related problem. Like you, my studio monitors are connected to Aux 7/8, however, I hear sound in my headphones as long as the Monitor and Main output are set above zero. However, the PHONES LEVEL control doesn't do anything. Selecting the Speaker Output in the Live Monitoring section and touching MUTE, mutes the sound in the headphones as well. 


       


      Expected behavior


      - Selecting the Speaker Output in the Live Monitoring section and touching MUTE, should not mute the sound in the headphones. 


      - Changing the OUTPUT control from Headphones A, Speakers B or Both C should change determine where the Monitor output is heard. 

      • May 20, 2020
  • PXL_Evan
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-19

     I am using a a Xenyx 1202usb and am trying to use the borad for podcasting a for video game e-sports commentary. the problem I am having is being able to send game sound to the board itself but not out put it back to my computer so as no to cause an audio loop. I tryed to achieve this by using a mix minus setup and and control the channels individually by using the FX knob to control output from the board but still be able to the sound through headset micrphones connected directly to the board. I did indead achive the control I wanted but when I outputed the sound from the FX send port back to my computers input the recording sounded terrible! I sounded like all the sound coming into the computer was coming out of a tin can and all distorted. However when I try to output the board audio through the usb to the computer it all sound fine but loose the ability to control the game audio onthe board becasue i am not using the FX send port onthe borad. 

     

    I am at a total loss. I have been working on this for 3 day try to figure out how to get this to work and It just wont. Please help. I have scowered these forums and no one has answered this problem.

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  • rickschwar
    Regular Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-18

    If you use Mix Station Pro for Android, two new updates were released in the last 24-hours.

    Changelog v1.1.1

    - Added MIDI support for MCU controller

    Changelog v1.1.0

    Added

    - Restricted use => multiple busses

    - Fully customizable channel strips

    Fixed

    - Show and USB player not working after reconnect

    - IDCA red line not always correctly shown

    Changed

    - Layer reset does account for selected channel count

    - Meter bridge does account for layer channel count

    The non-Pro version of Mixing Station Wing is still on version 1.0.7. 

    If you are not sure how to use this app with your console. I've added a few instructions below.

     

    Using Mixing Station Pro with WING

    If you mix live sound with your WING console, I think this app is a must-have. It allows you to walk around the room and make adjustments on the console using your smartphone or a tablet. You can change anything on the channel strip, busses, DCAs, matrixes and the Main outs. This includes EQ, compression settings, gate settings are more. This is priceless to me. You can even reassign sources to destinations. All you need is a cheap wireless router that you can connect to your WING.

    Setting up this app is easy. 

    1. First, connect a CAT 5 cable between the router and the network jack on the WING.
    2. Next, select the SSID for your router on your mobile device. If you do not do this the app won’t be able to communicate with your console. Note: It will appear as ‘Connected, no internet.’
    3. Next, open the MIXING STATION app and touch ‘Connect.’
    4. The app should load in a few seconds. Once you connect you won’t have to do it again. 

     

    The documentation is good for this app. Check it out to learn much more.

     

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    • rickschwar
      curtbl

      A question, you mention in your post that show and usb were fixed, I must be missing something as I cannot find the USB player controls in the app at all.  Please advise.


      Thanks


      Fixed


      - Show and USB player not working after reconnect

      • May 19, 2020
    • rickschwar
      PatrickGMaillot

      Humm, my PC version did update, but the andoid (WING pro version) stays at 1.0.7... Anything specific that has to be done to update the phone/android version?

      edit: maybe normal afterall...

      • May 19, 2020
  • dstormjr
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-18

    Hello All.  I am in the process of trying to convert from an analog mixer to the Behringer X16 Air and I made it through all the technical hurdles; initial configruation, setup as access point, etc. However, my knowledge lacks when it comes to creating the scene for live vocals and a feed for A/V equipment.  Maybe on occasion run a keyboard, guitar and provide a feed for a box drum.  If I can get it close, it should help me tweek it the rest of the way.  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

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    • dstormjr
      RexBeckett

      @dstormjr 


      Hello David, welcome to the community.


       


      To get started, take a look at some of these videos. They should help you to setup the channels, FX and monitor mixes. I recommend using XAir Edit for initial setup as it gives a better view of the configuration. 


       


      If you run into problems, save your scene and attach the .scn file to your post (see Choose File button below) and we should be able to help.

      • May 18, 2020
  • keefwoodcock
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-05-17

    Hi,

    Not sure if anyone can help at all. I've been trying to use FX Send and have been monitoring it using the FX to CTRL Button. It seems that you can't send anything out of FX Send without having an internal effect on it. Is that correct? I have a guitar on input one an have turned up the FX control for that channel but the only way I can get anything out of FX Send is by turning up the FX to Main Control. There doesn't appear to be an option for no effect with the control turned up. Even zero has a reverb effect. Maybe I'm doing somethging stupid? Apologies if so

    Keith

     

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    • keefwoodcock
      RexBeckett

      @keefwoodcock 


      Hello Keith, welcome to the community.


       


      The FX Send output is driven by a mix of the FX sends from the channels. This is the same signal that is sent to the internal FX processor.


       


      The FX To Main control adjusts the amount of return signal from the internal FX processor that is added to the Main mix. The FX To Cntl button sends the output of the FX To Main control to the Control Room and Phones outputs as a Solo. The FX To Main control does not affect the signal at the FX Send output. What you hear when you press the FX To Cntl button is the Return not the Send.

      • May 17, 2020
  • JeffreyScott
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-16

    Hi Folks...I have something odd happening with my X32 Rack setup with an S16. I normally plug directly in to the X32 Rack but this week past I tested out my S16 and encountered something strange.

    I am running 4.02 FW on the X32 and am Running 2.4Fw on the S16. I am using a Klark Tecnik Grounded / Shielded Ethercon cable to conect the two.

    I have NOT engaged the "Lock Out Stage Box" or the HA Trim Control buttons in the Global setup Tab.

    My test setup is a Vocal Mic plugged in to the channel and carefully and evenly saying Check Check..(lol)

    So...when I plug directly into the X32...on channels 1 to 8 and on 9 to 16...if I turn the Input gain completely off to the Left (-12db)...and speak into a mic..The Mixer/ Channel behaves as expected. There is no Input signal being shown on the channel strip meters and no output signal being sent to the LR Main output. Turning up the Input gain shows a gradual increase on the Channel Meter...and a volume increase from nothing to a normal level on the LR Mains / output speakers...just as expected. All Good.

    But...when I connect the S16...I have green Light sync between the two devices...the S16 Configuration Knob turned completely over to the left ( Mode 1)...I get a different behaviour on the channel inputs. Channels 1-8 behave as normal....the X32 controls the input gain as expected and there is no problem. However...Channels 9-16....when the Input gain knob is turned completely to the Left (-12db)...there is still signal showing on the Channel meter and you can hear it thru the Mains. Turning up the Input gain increases the Output of the channel but it doesn't seem to be as sensitive or to get as loud as a mic pluged in to Channels 1-8.

    Is there a way the Preamps Control in the Setups tab supposed to be set?

    Is there a specific Routing/ Input and Output setup . I admit I still don't fully understand the Routing on the X32. I have always used the basic stock configuration of the local inputs and outputs on the back of the X32.

    Is the S16 defective? Is it an internal setting that's causing this? Any help would be appreciated

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    • JeffreyScott
      GaryHiggins

      @JeffreyScott 


      Hello, you have aes50a 1-8 and 9-16 as the first 16 mixer input ch's I assume? Did you try adjusting the gain using the setup/preamps page (as opposed to the mixer gain knob) and see if the results are the same? It should do the same thing but I'm curious. It seems like maybe something hardware wise is defective. My S16 is currently not set up to check if that's also how mine operates, but I kind of doubt it.

      • May 16, 2020
    • JeffreyScott
      JeffreyScott

      Yes...aes50a 1-8 and 9-16 are set up as the first 16 channels on the mixer input channels. Yes....when adjusting the gain using the Setup/ Preamp pages the results are the same.

      • May 16, 2020
    • JeffreyScott
      JeffreyScott

      To summarize....the problem is that channels 9-16 on the S16 seem to be not shutting completely off when the input gain is adjusted...or  it's as if there is signal leaking in from somewhere else.

      • May 16, 2020
    • JeffreyScott
      JeffreyScott

      Update....with more testing it appears that Channel 16 has a TON of gain....way over and above the channels 9-15.


      I'm getting worried...this sounds like the unit is fried...and it's out of warranty now...

      • May 16, 2020
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