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  • rwprigge777
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-06-10

    Hey guys, I'm going to be doing some troubleshooting to figure out what is going on but I figured maybe you guys would have some thoughts. I'm getting an occasional beep coming through the signal chain I have shown below. I do know that the beep goes away when I just have the DL 32 and the wing in the system without the x32 or wave server.

    4 wireless mics --> DL 32 (AES A) --> (AES A) Wing (AES B) --> (AES A) X32 (x-wsg card) --> Ethernet switcher --> Waves server --> Ethernet switcher --> (x-wsg card) X32 (AES A) --> (AES B) Wing (AES A) --> (AES A) DL 32 --> mains

     

    I'm pretty sure I can rule out anything to do with the mic and receivers, as well as the connection to the mains since the beeping does not exist on these mic channels when we were just using the Wing and DL 32. 

    I should also note that the beeping not only comes through the outputs I have routed on the DL32, but also through outputs 15 and 16 on the back of the x32.

     

    Any thoughts on what this could be?

     

     

     

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    • rwprigge777
      Paul_Vannatto


      @rwprigge777 wrote:


      Any thoughts on what this could be?





      Do you have the master clock of your eco-system set to Exp. Card on the X32 with the X-WSG card (Setup, Config, Synchronization = Exp. Card)? If not, that might be the reason for the bleeping.


       

      • June 10, 2020
  • calebhorains1
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-09

    Hey everyone, 

    I need some guidance...

    Disclaimer; I'm extremely new to the X32 workflow so keep in mind I'm a total n00b. 

    I'm hoping to use the card out to send audio into Ableton to have control over a seperate mixdown for a live stream, then send the Ableton into OBS. 

    I was able to configure the USB card to send audio into Ableton but it sounds AWFUL. I'm getting lots of glitches, stutters, pops, weird bleeps and boops, lots of distortion. I suspect I'm doing something wrong becasue I have a 2019 MB Pro with up-spec'd ram, beefier processer, etc., and the X32 is less than 6 months old (purchased brand new).

    Any ideas would be very much appreciated... 

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    • calebhorains1
      RexBeckett

      @calebhorains1 


      Hello Caleb, welcome to the community.


       


      First check that the Ableton project is set to the same sample-rate as the X32. You may also need to set larger buffer sizes. I don't know if you can do this through Ableton or you need to use the macOS Setup -> Audio Midi tool.

      • June 9, 2020
    • calebhorains1
      calebhorains1

      Thank you sir,


      I made sure everything matched and tried every buffer size Ableton can process. It got a little better, but not much... 

      • June 9, 2020
  • drlanford
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-08

    I'd like to be able to assign the same signal to both the left and right channels of a single console channel, then delay just one of them to create a pseudo stereo effect. 

    We are currently able to do this using two console channels, but that obviously uses twice as many console channels and I'd like to be able to do this with three or four inputs. So instead of using 6 or 8 console channels to accomplish this, it would use only 3 or 4.

    BONUS: a GUI feature similar to the "TRIM & BALANCE" feature that does this same effect.

    In addition, the ability to move the channel delay in the signal chain.

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    • drlanford
      Paul_Vannatto


      @drlanford wrote:


      I'd like to be able to assign the same signal to both the left and right channels of a single console channel, then delay just one of them to create a pseudo stereo effect. 





      You can do this by "inserting the WING Delay. Adjust time and feedback to min, mix to 100%, and play with the offset control for moving the sound source in LR space virtually" (quote from beta team discussion regarding this issue). I just checked and the Wing Delay is labeled Stereo Delay in the Premium Fx list.

      • June 8, 2020
    • drlanford
      drlanford

      Paul, thanks for the workaround. I don't want to burn an FX slot (four FX slots for us) for this purpose.


      It seems like a simple fix to allow the delay of the left or right channels in a console channel. I'd like to purchase another for our front of house mixing, but this missing feature makes me hesitant to do so. 


      Thanks again.

      • June 9, 2020
  • acjay
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-06

    I'm a bit rusty on my recording gear, but I'm struggling to get good output levels from my Xenyx 802, and I'm wondering if something's wrong with my unit.

    One thing that seems a bit weird is that the level indicators don't light up at all. I'm not sure if I've done something wrong there.

    The biggest thing I'm struggling with is getting good sound in my Sennheiser HD280 Pro headphones. I've tried to work with several different sources, with not a huge amount of success. I've generally got knobs set at unity. I'm awaiting a couple more components, so some things aren't optimal.

    When I connect them directly to my Roland Octapad's headphone jack, everything sounds perfect. But when connected to the Phones output of the Xenyx, the output sounds low and lacking bass, even when I crank the Main Mix and Ctrl Room knobs pretty high. I'm struggling to get high levels without clipping. This goes for all sources I've tried monitoring through the headphones. Maybe something's wrong with the headphone amp in the mixer?

    For the 2-track output, which I'm using to connect to my sound system, I'm seeing much better results.

    And on a more minor note, it feels like I'm getting really low levels from the Octapad. I've got the master knob maxed on it, and I still have to give it some gain. I'm using an unbalanced mono connection while I await my balanced stereo cables, but it still seems weird. I used two different cables and no difference. Connecting it to a bass amp from the same output yields much better results, with moderate levels. So I guess you could say this has me questioning the preamps.

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    • acjay
      acjay

      Well, I feel kinda dumb now. The problem was that I had 2-TR TO CTRL ROOM pressed in. I guess this makes it so that CTRL ROOM and PHONES monitor only the 2-TRACK INPUT. The weird part is that I got enough signal bleed to hear anything at all. The level lights are working now, too.


      This post clued me in.


      Things I also learned:


      - the Octapad has a +6db boost feature.


      - the Octapad's outputs are unbalanced, so that wasn't going to be an issue.

      • June 6, 2020
  • GeorgeDougherty
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-06-06

    Really odd that I'm testing now and having difficulty recreating the exact scenario which causes problems..  I've had regular issues recalling a channel snapshot while on User layer 1 of the left hand bank.  The channels snapshot is full channel settings but the scribble strip does not update with a speaker's name when recalling their preset. 

    Toggling the bank to another layer and back to User 1 updates the scribble strip.  Now that I'm focused on testing and paying attention to the channel name on the display I can't duplicate the issue. I have already swapped between banks and recalled a snapshot from the 1-12 layer but can't shut it down in the middle of recording at the moment.  It appears to be state related. 

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  • DickStraathof
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-06-06

    I have serious problems with my Wing Graphical User Interface. It is randomly swithcing things, depending on what page I am working on. The middle left area is living its own life, I have heard that the first batch of consoles had issues with the capacitive display and I think I am so unlucky to have collected one of these.
    Since the corona issues and UK being almost complete in lock-down, I don't dare to send my console in for service. It can take months before I will receive it back after service and I cannot wait that long time since I have sold my good old X32.
    I have send in a parts request for a new display and that request is "in progress" now. I am curious to see if Behringer will send me a new display so I can replace it myself.
    I think for this time that is the best solution....

    Are other people having the same issues?

    DickS 

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    • DickStraathof
      rickschwar

      Hi Dick,


      I have not had many problems with things changing -- other than channels becoming unassigned from DCAs. Strangely enough, after I reassign them a second or third time, they seem to 'stick.' I know this makes no sense at all, but I've had it happen many times. 


       


      I had to wait almost a month to send in my defective WING-LIVE card because the Vegas repair depot was shut down due to Coronavirus and not accepting any returns. Finally, I got my RMA and then UPS lost my package. The depot has ordered me a replacement, but they are on backorder. 


       


      Good luck with your problem. Hopefully you can get a replacement screen. 

      • June 6, 2020
    • DickStraathof
      GeorgeDougherty

      Yes.  Thankfully it's rare that it selects a spot on the screen for me and most of the time it's just a minor annoyance.  It has happened on an input selection screen where it is problematic during a fast setup.. 

      • June 6, 2020
  • bavera123
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-06-04

    Firmware Version 1.06.  When attempting to save only channel source inputs in a snap, none of the individual snap settings seem to save the input source.  Tyring to create a snap that would easily allow switching between recording and playback input settings.  A full snap does save and restore the source inputs, but it seems there is no individual setting that will do this.  It appears to be a bug in the 1.06 firmware or a feature not yet implemented.  Anyone else have this issue?

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    • bavera123
      GaryHiggins

      @bavera123 


      Hello, not sure about the ch snap saves, I will also double check BUT. Why not use the ch alt inputs? A one button push changes all ch's at one time. I'm assuming you want USB or SD card inputs for playback.

      • June 4, 2020
    • bavera123
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Brent @bavera123 ,


      Welcome to the forum. Snapshots save all settings of the Wing. What you can select are the recall scope. For the channel sources, I would suggest you select the desired channel(s) and the "Conn" at the bottom. I just tried it and it did work as expected.


       

      • June 4, 2020
  • mjscalesjr
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-04

    I am considering purchasing a WING to replace my X32. I have 22 microphones coming from one location, 16 microphones from another location. I've been successful running microphones via SD16's into A and B (not cascaded... because they're coming from 2 locations not near one another). However, the new configuration will see 22 microphones scattered across a great distance in the same room and rather than run long XLR cables back to one SD32, I would like to cascade 4 SD8s filling SD8 1 & 2 with 8 ins each, SD8 3 & 4 with 3 each. Can I cascade that deep?

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    • mjscalesjr
      GaryHiggins

      @mjscalesjr 


      Hello, Yes, as long as you dont excede 48x48 on a single port (Wing has 3!)


       


      EDIT: You should be able to link 6 SD8's per port for the 48 inputs. The XLR output options would still be restricted to a choice of the 3 provided switch positions for each SD8. Out 1-8/out 9-17 and out 17-24. So even though there could be 6 sets of XLR outs, only 3 options as to what would be output from any of them. Ultranet for all is aes50a 33-48.

      • June 4, 2020
  • arkatten
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-06-04

    Hi 

    just got my x32 today , and out of the box the 48volt power buttons dont seem to light up .

    and i cant get a signal from my condensor mic ..

    ive checked the manual and cant find anywhere other than the button on the desc to switch it on or off.

    and this doesnt work .

     

    any ideas ?

     

    thanks 

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    • arkatten
      RexBeckett

      @arkatten 


      Hello Ryan, welcome to the community.


       


      The button on the console affects the preamp for the currently selected channel. Each channel has independent settings for gain, phantom, etc. 


       


      You can also see/change the preamp settings on the Setup -> Preamps tab.

      • June 3, 2020
    • arkatten
      arkatten

      yeah , i got to that page , and i was able to switch the power on and off from the preamps page 2nd button from the left makes the 48v light up yellow on the display , 


      however this doesnt seem to make any difference , im still not getting a siganl coming in , or the 48v light on the desc to light up?


       


       

      • June 3, 2020
  • cracanut
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-06-03

    DCA and Subgroup spill functionality would be an absolute game changer and allow for many different workflows.

    Perhaps the spill could be triggered by double pressing the select button (similar to double pressing the 'Attention' button on Avid consoles)?

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