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  • powertomi
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-10

    Hi!
    Anyone knows: the channel input level meter in Pro2 has a peak or rms display?

    Thanks.

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  • Pgrant999
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-06-01

    Hello all!  I am fairly new to Digital audio and it's interfaces.  I have recently gone to work at a Church, and I inherited a Midas Pro1 and I am trying to research to see if I can interface the PRO1 via AES50 to the Behringer Ultranet in-ear system (P16, etc..., to be purchased asap).   

    In my research, someone mentioned that they will not natively talk because the PRO1 operates at 96kHz, and the Behringer stuff is 48kHz (I think).  

    So QUESTION IS: what do I need to do to get a route of 16 channels/mixes out to the Berhinger in-system? Hardware converter?  A different in-ear system?  

    HELP!  Any and all is greatly appreciated!

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    • Pgrant999
      GaryHiggins

      @Pgrant999 


      Hello. Besides the 96K clock the p16 system will not work with a Pro1 as it is a proprietary protocol also requiring an ultranet port. The pro1 doesn't have that and the P16 sytems work at 48/44k. So the P16 system is out-unless you get an X32 mixer or a Midas M32, both have the ultranet. If on a tight budget, you might want to look into the P2 monitor devices. They run from an xlr cable connected to a bus output. They are cheap and sound quite good, with the proper cable 2 buses (not sure if you also have a stagebox) can be linked for stereo operation. Otherwise you will need some other form of in ear system most of which can be very expensive. Pro1 is a very nice inheritance however! 


       


      EDIT: I just thought of 1 other possibility. Using a P16I. They accept either adat or analog inputs and then output those to P16. The analog inputs of it are 1/4 in but if you had a way to convert Pro1 ch outs to 1/4 balanced or unbalaced cable, it accepts 16 ch's of analog and then you could connect the P16M's to it.

      • June 1, 2020
    • Pgrant999
      ChaseMcKnight

      Hi @Pgrant999 

      As @GaryHiggins suggested, using a Behringer P16-I and coming out analog of the Pro1 (either rear XLRs or via DL stage box) would be the most affordable option. Integrating an X/M32 over AES50, while a flexible and convenient setup, would require a Klark Teknik Network bridge and expansion card - which is quite an investment if the sole purpose is to integrate with the P16 system.  

      • June 2, 2020
  • weason
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-01

    We are trying to direct record from the M32 to a MAC Air using Pro Presenter.  The DN32 is seen by the MAC, but the volume is low.  Any suggestions on how to increase the output volume?

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    • weason
      GaryHiggins

      @weason 


      Hello, what tap point are you using? If you use "local" as the source for card out, the gain setting is all you can boost but of course not to the point of distortion. If you change the source of card out using utranet out, out 1-16 or aux out you can then use direct outputs of your ch's at post fader or post eq etc and get some further boost that way.

      • June 1, 2020
    • weason
      weason

      Yes, we are using "local outs".  Routing seems difficult - may not be but it's confusing.  And of course the user guide isn't much help.


      So changing to the Ultranet 1-16 outs is there a way to adjust the overall gain or is it still per chanel?

      • June 1, 2020
  • shadwell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-29

    hey all , 

    I am really struggling with getting basic signal flow going to and from protools.  I am also trying to use this as front end fro a streaming situation.  I will pay a person with real knowledge to can help me solve this.  I work in tech support at a major university and this kinda stuff never gives me a hard time. 

     

     

     

     

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    • shadwell
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Aaron @shadwell ,


      I'm not sure what console you have, since they never made an M32 Rack. The assignments of signals to the DN9630 is done on the Routing, AES50 (A or B) screen in banks of 8. If you want to record the signals directly after the preamps, mirror the Routing, Inputs screen on the appropriate AES50 screen.


       


      For the streaming requirements, it depends on the software used to do that. Many apps only accept USB 1/2 if you are using a Windows OS. If you are using a Mac or linux, you have more flexibility.


       


      For signals from the DN9630 to the console, it depends on how many you want returned. If you want just a stereo return (master out of the DAW), you can assign Card 1-2 to the Aux In Remap (on the Routing, Inputs screen). That will bring those signals to the Aux 1 and 2 channel strips.


       


      If you give us more details of your requirements, we can add more detailed solutions.

      • May 29, 2020
    • shadwell
      shadwell

      Paul @Paul_Vannatto  many thanks,  I meant m32C. my mistake.   I truly appreciate your knowledge and help. I am serious about the payment offer, I feel i am asking a lot and that offering something in return is very important. 


      let me try to say more about these uses: in both of the following situations the klark Teknik DN9630 gets me into the computer from the M32C. 


      The simple one is recording to protools, I'd like to have the option to be able to print the dynamics, eq and FX in the m32C to pro tools tracks.  I mostly do demos at home working quickly is very important.  I hire out the proper recording, mix and master.  The songs come first. 


      The second situation is sending a stereo mix made up of the 8 inputs that come in on the optical card out to the computer for streaming.  right now I am looking at OBS or Eccam as a streaming app to both record and interface with various streaming platforms.   I am on a mac book pro.  


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       

      • May 29, 2020
    • shadwell
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Aaron @shadwell ,


      Thanks for the details. An M32C does change things, since it relies on external inputs/outputs such as stageboxes etc. So I assume you are using a stagebox connected to one of the M32C AES50 ports and the DN9630 connected to the other port. Also if you want to use the channel processing of the M32C (EQ, dynamics, gate, etc.), that changes the routing requirements significantly. It also assumes that you are using the M32-Edit app and not the console display for controlling the console (which is a good thing IMO). If you are attempting to try and do this routing, etc. with the iPad app, don't bother, unless you want to lose more hair than you really want to (and I can't help you, since I don't own any Apple products).


       


      When setting up complex routing, the first thing I do is to layout the interconnectivity mapping. For example, you might have the following ([A] and [B] are the AES50 ports):


      S16 [A] <-> [B] S16 [A] <-> [A] M32C [B] <-> [A] DN9630


      If you mapping is different, it will subsequently change the routing. Since you want the channel strip processing, you will need to first assign the individual channel outputs using the Routing, Out 1-16 and Ultranet screens. There you can assign Direct Chan Out and also change the taps (right clicking the circles) to probably either pre-fader or post-fader. Then you would assign these outputs in banks of 8 to the Routing, AES50 B (if you are using the mapping above) in order to send it to the DN9630.


       


      For streaming, since you have a Macbook Pro, most apps (such as OBS) can probably select the various USB inputs (which are outputs of the DN9630). Most apps default to using USB 1/2 (and Windows users typically are stuck with this default). I switched from Windows to linux in January and also now have more possibilities. 


       


      You mentioned an optical card. What card would that be?


       


       

      • May 29, 2020
    • shadwell
      shadwell

      @Paul_Vannatto 


      I have no stage boxes in this rig. the only analog. i/o is done via the Focusrite Clarett octo pre . https://focusrite.com/en/adat-mic-pre/clarett/clarett-octopre. it has some ad/da functionality.  8 in 8 out  and it talk to the M32c via light pipe , that box for the light pipe card is attached its an x-Adat from Behringer 


      the Klark Teknik DN9630 is connected to the AES50 A port and in turn talks to the computer via USB


      many thanks for your time.  


      Aaron 


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       


       

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      • May 29, 2020
    • shadwell
      GaryHiggins

      @shadwell 


      Just to add my meager 2 cents. If going straight from from your Adat card to a computer you probably would only need to change your "card out" routing source to P16 or Out 1-16 instead of "Local" Using those routing menu sources allows you to dictate the tap points needed to record full ch processing that can include Gate, Comp, EQ and pre/post fader. (eg P16 ch 1 = Direct out of ch1 post fader etc) Local is pre everything and can't be otherwise. Doing the same post fader for Main L/R as the source for 2 of your recorded ch's will also capture your complete mix The DN9630 should be able to also accommodate the ultranet (or out 1-16) as the source of up to 16 aes50 ch's which should allow the same tap points when using it. 

      • May 29, 2020
  • mattrcraig
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-28

    He everyone!

    We are starting to livestream and we just got a M32R to run our broadcast feed. We also want to throw a Behringer X32 in the mix for a separate monitor board. We have a DL32 stage box to run all of our channels.

    What would be the sequence for us to hook everything up properly and get the best result? 

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    • mattrcraig
      CraigFowler

      There are a couple of ways to do it. The way I think makes the most sense is to go DL32>Monitors>FOH>Livestream.  Monitor console is clock master, the other consoles slave off it.

      • May 28, 2020
    • mattrcraig
      GaryHiggins

      @mattrcraig 


      As Craig said there are a few ways to do this. A couple of considerations: Will you ever use preamps from the monitor board or always just the DL32 preamps? If you might sometimes use the monitor mixer preamps, the X32 then as the live feed board makes sense to me. Why waste any M32 mic pre's for the live feed when it will only mirror aes50? The other consideration is where the preamps of the DL32 are to be controlled from. The A port side of the DL controls preamps and its output assignments. So another possible scenario where the monitor position mixer controls preamps:


       


      M32 FOH A <>A X32 (as live feed) x32 sync A


       


      M32 FOH B<>A M32R B<>A DL32  (M32R as master. M32 FOH sync B)


       


      Monitor M32R controls DL outputs and all preamp control. M32R mirrors its inputs via aes50 to FOH. FOH mirrors aes50 to X32 for live stream. 

      • May 28, 2020
    • mattrcraig
      mattrcraig Craig, what side of the AES50 should I use for each connection?
      • May 28, 2020
    • mattrcraig
      CraigFowler

      The only one that really matters is the A socket on the DL32. The rest are interchangeable. However for consistency in routing tables, I’d go;


      DL32(A)>Monitors(B)


      Monitors(A)>FOH(B)


      FOH(A)>Livestream(B)

      • May 29, 2020
    • mattrcraig
      mattrcraig

      Ok, gotcha.


      What if we wanted to run the monitors out of the B side of the DL32, though?


      still use A side for the other boards.


      Do you foresee a problem doing it that way?

      • May 29, 2020
  • RichardGregory
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-05-26

    Can anyone provide information on obtaining a replacement fader for the Midas M32 console?  I can find them on the internet, but those that I find appear to be the the correct fader (ProFader 100mm), but have the mounting studs and not the longer bracket with the screw holes at each end.  Apparently the motor has gone out on mine.  Tried reseating the connectors to no avail.

    Thanks, 

    Richard.

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    • RichardGregory
      KevinMaxwell

      Have you tried contacting Midas service on this? If you registered your M32 when you got it the Warrantee is extended but I am not sure for how long. May by they will send you a replacement so you can put it in yourself.  

      • May 27, 2020
    • RichardGregory
      RichardGregory

      Yes, I did, if submitting an online case to the support counts.  I received the automated response from MT Care, but nothing further to date.  If I could determine proper part number and souce, I would be happy to purchase and replace it myself.


      Richard

      • May 27, 2020
    • RichardGregory
      KevinMaxwell


      @RichardGregory wrote:


      Yes, I did, if submitting an online case to the support counts.  I received the automated response from MT Care, but nothing further to date.  If I could determine proper part number and souce, I would be happy to purchase and replace it myself.


      Richard





      Is there a part number om it. I am pretty sure that Midas makes their own faders.


       


      Is it this one? https://www.midasconsoles.com/Categories/Midas/Mixers/Accessories/PRO-FADER-%28200-mm%29/p/P0AHW#googtrans(en|en)


       

      • May 27, 2020
    • RichardGregory
    • RichardGregory
      RichardGregory

      @KevinM32 Fader Mount (full view)M32 Fader Mount (full view)M32 Fader mount (note screw hole)M32 Fader mount (note screw hole)Well, yes and no.  That is the correct fader.  However, the mounting arrangement is not the same (at least on my M32.)  The fader shown (which I actually purchased earlier off the internet based on a salesperson assurance and internet reviews (which I guess I should go correct)) has the "M3 threaded pillar fixings on 120.0 mm (4.7") fixing centres" mounting arrangement.  The failed fader (which I have removed for documentation) has a longer top frame and two screw holes on each end.  I have attached two photos as examples.  I considered disassembling the orignal fader and putting the required frame on the replacment one (as shown by you), but determined that was not optimal as I was unsure I could successfully replace the plastic gear and decided against it.  I'm not going to "duct tape and bailing wire" a perfectly good mixer (yet.)


      Hopefully someone from Midas will come along with the correct part, or my support ticket will provide the correct answer.  But thanks for trying.


      Richard

      • May 27, 2020
  • GaryHiggins
    Superhero - Level 1
    2020-05-26

    Was looking for something else and noted a new firmware version for the DP48,

     

    New Features 1.3

    • 2 separate stereo reverb processors for separation between Mix A and B

    • Stereo mode for assigning and editing two channels of a Group at the same time (long press)

    • Reverb sends are now post-fader separately for Mix A/B

    • New idle screen with Group names and pre-fader metering overview

    • Quick Group renaming by selecting from a list of common names (long press on idle screen)

    • MIX A/MIX B ‘Meter Screen’ same as idle screen but showing A/B post-fader levels

    • Talkback function using the internal microphones in conjunction with HUB4

    • Talkback signal will be exchanged between all DP48 mixers and M32 consoles via CH48

    • Automatic configuration if Talkback is active:

    o Add CH48 to assignment of Group 12 o Rename Group 12 to ‘Talkback’
    o Activate ‘MIC +20dB’ in Setup

    Configure Talkback in Setup, press and hold MIC button to speak

     

    Improvements

    • FX return default value set to -10 dB

    • ID and enumeration bugs in remote operation fixed

    • Master units update local preset copy when a X32 broadcast message is received

    • Remote function: group names are sent to remote unit

    • Group PAN had no effect when the group was assigned to a MIX as MY-Group

    • Work on local preset when the remote ID is master

    • Better AES50 error management and faster recovery

    • DP48 on HUB4 master port for remote control

    • Missing X32 messages improved

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    • GaryHiggins
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hey Gary @GaryHiggins 


      Yes this was released a few days ago. Lots of neat new features. The new idle screen means I no longer have to print off strips to label the groups for each band.


       

      • May 25, 2020
  • eastfrequencies
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-05-25

    Hello! I am trying to update my M32R LIVE! But every time I do it is saying something about the firmware's legacy "integrity". how do I fix this?

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    • eastfrequencies
      RexBeckett

      Hello @eastfrequencies , welcome to the community.


       


      How are you trying the update the firmware? Are you doing it directly on the console? If so, the firmware file must be in the USB drive's root folder with no other firmware files present (although they can be in a second-level folder).

      • May 24, 2020
    • eastfrequencies
      GaryHiggins

      Since version 4.0, if you load from a usb stick (with the mixer already on) you can have more than 1 firmware file in the root directory. Lets you pick and choose and change from old to new and back again if you want without a lot of fanfare...I would suggest downloading the firmware file again, expand the file and make sure you copy the correct file (the dcp_corefs part). The X32 uses the same firmware file so you can also try that version, it will work. These mixers are resilient so try again, your current file could have become corrupt somehow.

      • May 24, 2020
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